Indiana Remains Unbeaten & Louisville vs. Kentucky in Early November?

Yep, we're back. It's the height differential. That's the six six kneel. I'm the four foot ten Nick. We're gonna do this on a Sunday We didn't have to suffer through another agonizing bingles loss So we're ready to come here and talk to you about all the football action this weekend

Neil (01:00)
We're in a better mood today. We're cheery.

Nick (01:04)
I'm not gonna lie, I look forward to not having to watch some bingles today.

Neil (01:07)
Me too. I mean, it wasn't like we were going to be able to watch him anyway, as both of us have jobs to do. And we were working a women's basketball game. Coach Jeff Walls gets the home opening victory today. So we wouldn't have been able to watch it anyway. But it was good that I didn't have to pay any attention.

Nick (01:24)
Absolutely, and the sad thing is I probably wouldn't have worked if the Bengals were playing because I would have put myself through the agony and chose not to work but we were both there as you said the cards pulled away late and Taj Roberts really played well late and helped him helped him get a opening dub at the KFC Yom Center so but we'll kind of focus on NFL college football for the weekend a lot of good action I guess

We've kind of become, I feel like, a show for the Indiana Hoosiers football program. So, you wanna start there?

Neil (01:59)
Yeah, I mean it was by far the clearly the best game of the weekend. No going into it. You wouldn't have expected to say that Indiana went in as a 13 and a half point favorite on the road at Penn State. You know Penn State struggling. They lost five straight. ⁓ So you know their season fired. Obviously they fired James Franklin a couple weeks ago, so they were struggling and Indiana's just been, you know, beating everybody pretty good. So going into it, you weren't expecting it to be much of a game, but.

It turned out to be the game of the day.

Nick (02:29)
Yeah, looked like, mean, Indiana really, never busted it open like they have, but they were in control for most of the game. then Penn State had two big runs to give them the lead late.

Neil (02:39)
Yeah. No, yeah. mean,

they were on cruise control. I mean, it was what 20 to seven midway through the third Penn State got kicked that field goal. They ended up scoring another touchdown Mendoza through a pretty bad pick, which then ended up leading to another Penn State touchdown. And you're right. They took that lead late. Look, things looked a little bleak for the Hoosiers. Had to put together a ⁓ one minute touchdown drive with no timeouts. And they call them Heisman Doza.

for a reason, because he was Heisman-esque on that last drive when he needed to be. It was not his greatest overall game. His stats weren't eye-popping by any means. I think he threw for 218 yards, one touchdown, one pick. So not his greatest game, but when they needed him to be good, he was great.

Nick (03:28)
Yeah, Mendoza entered that drive with 131 yards passing and a pick hadn't thrown a touchdown yet. And on that drive he threw for 87 yards in a Tuddy. So most of the yards for that game was on that game winning drive. You talked about how they went 91 yards, but they also went backwards on the first play and had to convert a second and 17. So they kind of really get that drive going that got Mendoza's confidence up a little bit and it all came.

Neil (03:47)
Yeah, that's that. Yeah.

Nick (03:57)
They got the ball inside the 10 and then the touchdown pass to Omar Cooper Jr., which is a pass and a catch that we'll be talking about for a long time.

Neil (04:04)
It's it's one of the greatest catches. Actually,

I mean, it's one of the greatest catches. I think you'll see the fact that the body. I think he got one in. It was close. I think that one foot was hovering over the out of bounds line and it never actually touched until he got that first foot that second foot down. I mean the body control just to get the foot down. The referee was right on top of it. Nailed the call. I mean it was an incredible catch and then before that Charlie Charlie Becker had the catch.

Nick (04:10)
Did he get two in? I think he might have almost got two in.

Neil (04:34)
to set him up inside the and that was a great catch. I Charlie Becker out of nowhere, seven catches, 118 yards, know, coming into the game, he was, you know, not one of the top options on offense, but I mean, he came out of nowhere yesterday and had a great game.

Nick (04:47)
Yeah, know, Signetti, you know, after games, a lot of times he has that just that confidence and that cockiness a little bit. He was, he was kind of amazed of the fact that you could tell that he was impressed that they were able to kind of take those punches and figure out a way to win that game late. He was, he was kind of emotional a little bit.

Neil (05:05)
⁓

How about his answer to the reporter question of, I used number one here at Penn State. What's it going to take to get the first win or something like that? Did you hear his answer? This team has never played here. That was awesome. He is right. I love his answer.

Nick (05:20)
I mean, he's right. He's right.

yeah, 13 straight losses at Penn State. And I know Penn State is winless in the Big Ten and has obviously gone through changes with the coaching staff. I mean, you still have that weight on your shoulders, right? Trying to get that big win ⁓ at Penn State and they were able to do it. And no, just, look.

The bottom line is survive and advance, remain undefeated. Not every game is gonna be 55 to 10, which is kind of been their MO where most of those games have been like that. You're gonna have games like this where you have to figure out a way to win. And I think you're right. I think this kind of was a Heisman moment for Mendoza who didn't have his greatest game but was able to be great when they needed him late. And it's the first time that Indiana has

had a game winning touchdown pass in the final minute in the last 20 seasons. So we keep seeing more and more numbers from Indiana that we haven't seen before.

Neil (06:27)
And thoughts and prayers to Gus Johnson because I thought he about died on that call on the touchdown call. I mean, Gus is one of the best in the business, but man, Gus cracked a couple times on that last one. But he's a big Mendoza guy. He said, give him the Heisman. And I kind of agree with him. Give him the Heisman.

Nick (06:36)
Yes.

He did.

I mean, yeah. and you know, Ohio State rolled against a Purdue team that's not very good. Jeremiah Smith had another great game with 10 catches, 137 yards. So not much to really say on that one because Purdue is ever since Brahma's left has just not been very good. I don't think they've, think their losing streak in the Big 10 is maybe stretched multiple seasons, so.

Neil (07:14)
Yeah, no Purdue. Yeah, not much you can say about Purdue. just not very good as of right now.

Nick (07:22)
Oregon gets a game winning Philbo from Atticus Sappington.

Neil (07:29)
What a name What a name

Nick (07:30)
Do we

I think we this makes me want to go through and like just come up with some of the maybe we can do this on Wednesday But when you've got a guy named Atticus sappington, it makes me want to like come up with some of the best names in the history of sports

Neil (07:45)
Yeah, my personal favorite I think from recent memory was former Louisville cornerback Storm Duck was one of my personal favorites.

Nick (07:53)
So maybe that's something we can do on Wednesday, do a little research, come up with some really good names. I haven't had time to do it because it's been a busy weekend. But I get a text from Carl. Were you on the thread too, where it's just Atticus.Sappington. As he kicked the game win at Philgo. ⁓ That pass.

Neil (08:04)
Yes.

Yeah. Yes.

Like does anything does anything scream

Iowa football more than an 18 to 16 slugfest against two ranked teams? This is Iowa football. It's just an Iowa football.

Nick (08:20)
I mean, that's what they do.

And to speak on that, the 18 points by Oregon is the fewest points in a win over ranked teams since 2000. So they were able to win a game playing Iowa style. And Iowa, I mean, had a couple pass plays on that last drive where they took the lead and looked like they had converted two to put them up three. But then, and they called it good on the field, but then they go to the replay and it was pretty obvious that, that

Neil (08:33)
Yeah.

Nick (08:50)
he caught it out of bounds and they ended up overturning that which was huge because now Atticus Sappington's game winning field goal is a game winning field goal instead of a game tying field goal. But one of the plays that really stuck out to me was that pass to Dante Morda, Malik Vincent on the sideline. I mean, just a perfect dart, like the defender was right on top of me. The only thing he didn't do is turn around and try to find the ball but was really covered but.

Neil (09:00)
Yeah.

Nick (09:18)
Great throw by Dante Moore as Oregon figured out a way to win an ugly game against, like you said, an Iowa team that that's just what they do. And it was gross weather too. So add that on top of it.

Neil (09:26)
That's what they do. Yeah. Rain.

Yeah. Had the rain going. Yeah. That's true.

Nick (09:33)
Bama, not a pretty game, but they figured out a way to win. They've won 13 of the last 15 against LSU.

⁓ we definitely need to talk about the Vanderbilt game and you talk about a Haasman moment. You were reading me Diego Pavia's numbers.

Neil (09:43)
Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, he was two incredible players playing two different positions almost. Like, you know, passing he was 25 of 33, 377 yards and three touchdowns. And then as a rusher, 18 carries, 112 yards and another touchdown. Out of a quarterback, it's absolutely incredible. In a game, if you're Vandy, like that's a, this is a potential playoff saving game.

Cuz you can't lose to Auburn and you go to overtime with me. You can't lose to Auburn and your season's over if you lose this game. So they saved their season, Diego Pavia saving Vanderbilt football here in 2025.

Nick (10:31)
Yeah, in a week after Auburn couldn't do anything against Kentucky. They go out and score 38 points and Cam Coleman looks like he could be the best wide receiver in the country with some of the catches that he was making. Had 10 catches from 143 in a touchdown. They tried to find him on the, when they needed it on fourth down and overtime and overthrew him in the end zone. And that's, that's how they lost. But I mean, yeah, dude, you just look at Pavia's number yet. It's two players.

We're back in the show hey, we're back in the show hey comment. I run it back in quarterback throwing for 377 rushing for 112 and was perfect in overtime and no, mean, I've got a number here on Vanderbilt. They're eight and two for the first time since 1941.

Neil (11:02)
It's true, Yeah.

The doors are for real.

Nick (11:23)
They are and I mean, we watched the UK Auburn game last week and didn't look like the same team as they go up and down the field and score 38 points. don't, Kentucky's defense might be a little better than Vandy's. I don't think it's that much better, but A ⁓ remains undefeated. They start off their season nine and for the first time since 1992. ⁓

Neil (11:31)
Now, the now or future.

Yeah, no.

Nick (11:53)
comes into Louisville and records there. They were 18 and a half point underdogs record their largest underdog win since 1986. And then Virginia loses too. two of the top teams in the ACC go down and that ACC race is kind of wide open now.

Neil (12:12)
Yeah, no, yeah, Louisville disappointing loss for Louisville. I mean, give Cal credit. mean that freshman quarterback, uh, Geron, I can't even begin to, yeah, we'll just call him JKS. Yep. Don't even know how to, how to go there. So I mean, 30, 323 yards, two touchdowns. I'm in an incredible performance from that young man and Jacob DeJesus, the wide receiver, 16 catches, 158 yards of the touchdown. mean, he was just given Louisville fits all night. So, you know, disappointing.

Nick (12:21)
JKS, just JKS.

Neil (12:40)
Hopefully they can bounce back. You know, they still got their some really tough games down the stretch here with Clemson coming to town Friday night, then at SMU and then the rivalry to end it. So plenty to still to play for if you're the cards. Just gotta bounce back and get past this one.

Nick (12:55)
But you're right, mean, dude, JK, he s looked unbelievable. And I mean, I didn't know much about him going into the game to be honest with you. True freshman quarterback made every throw that he had to make and I mean, every throw right on target like he was really good and really poised. And yeah, mean, this is disappoint obviously a disappointing loss for the cards. So this doesn't affect the crowd too much because looking been looking forward to this Friday night game against Clemson for a long time and I know.

Neil (13:02)
I didn't either, no.

It was very, very good. Yes.

Nick (13:25)
Clemson's not the Clemson that we're used to seeing, still Clemson, still Friday night game. So hoping the atmosphere will be really good on Friday night.

Neil (13:28)
It's still close.

Yeah, no, it'll be a

good time. It'll be good.

Nick (13:35)
The game of the week was Texas Tech and BYU and Texas Tech just kind of took care of business, went up 26 to nothing. yeah, really everybody's looking forward to it and it wasn't much to really watch.

Neil (13:53)
No, yeah, I mean you're you're right. Texas Tech took care of business. I mean, BYU your guy bear only 188 yards, one touchdown, one pick 23 of 38. So not his greatest game. Texas Tech defense just, you know, came to play held him to seven points and I mean it was an easy. Like you said, supposed to be the game of the week and it turned out to be a pretty good pretty good but will.

Nick (14:16)
And you know, Texas Tech is a team that we haven't talked much about on this show much. And they went out and spent a lot of money on that, on that defense. And you know, we've seen teams that have spent a lot of money in NIL and it not really always lead to great results. This, this defense is really good. And it's led by Jacob Rodriguez, who the head coach, Joan Maguire was really pushing him to, to be a Heisman Trophy candidate. And in the game yesterday,

Neil (14:17)
Thank

Yes.

Nick (14:45)
He kind of really put his name on the national stage with 14 tackles. He had a pick, he had a fumble recovery and Patrick Mahomes is at the game and he's putting out on social, getting me to New York. So I mean, I admittedly didn't know much about this Texas Tech team until watching this game. And I mean, I've heard a lot about their defense and they held BYU to no points through three quarters. And really

I mean, Brockmeyer was just under pressure the entire game and never was able to get into any kind of rhythm.

Neil (15:17)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, Rodriguez, think he's major Rodriguez. I mean, he's six, just outside the top 10, I think, in the nation in total tackles. But yesterday, like you said, 14 tackles, one for loss, a pick and a fumble. Like, he was everywhere. Seems to be the leader of that defense. I don't know if we're putting him in the Heisman conversation, but I mean, when's the last time, do you know the last time we've had a defensive player in New York?

Nick (15:42)
actually, just going to New York?

Neil (15:43)
Yeah, was Aiden Hutchinson in there?

Nick (15:46)
I'm not even 100 % sure.

Neil (15:47)
It's not common, it's definitely not common.

Nick (15:50)
I

mean, the offensive players that have won it.

Neil (15:53)
Charles Woodson probably the last one to won it. But just going to New York, it's not very common to even go to New York.

Nick (15:56)
Yeah?

No, but you gotta run a campaign to get them there. And their head coach, Patrick Mahomes, is both doing that. And we all know who he is now. this Texas Tech defense looks for real. I think there was a stat before that game, whoever wins that game has like a 90 % chance to make the playoff. So Texas Tech looking like in good shape to get to the playoff and.

Neil (16:06)
Yeah?

Yeah, they're in the driver's seat in the Big 12.

Nick (16:29)
The

Yeah, on Friday night, we don't really need to get into the game. USC beats Northwestern 38 to 17. But one play that I wanted to talk about was the fake punt. Did you see the fake punt?

Neil (16:46)
I had not, you had told me about it though, but I have not seen it.

Nick (16:49)
So

for people like college football rosters are so big. You have multiple players with the same number and this happens multiple times. It's not like just one guy has 80 like multiple players have the same numbers and most of the time one them is offensive player and one of is a defensive player. But like if you're working games and doing stats sometimes that can make it confusing because you're not a hunter. Are you sure that's who that was and special teams?

Neil (17:13)
Yeah.

Nick (17:18)
Both offensive and defensive players are out there. So it just it really can be confusing. But they pulled a little trick on their roster as they listed Sam Huard who had been wearing seven all year. They changed his number to 80. And 80 is also the number of their punter Sam Johnson.

Neil (17:20)
True.

Hey.

Nick (17:40)
So

I believe it was the third quarter they run the punt unit out there and it's number 80 back there to punt. And another thing with USC is they don't have their names on the back of their jerseys, which I don't really think that's gonna make a difference because you're not, I don't think the coaching staff is gonna look and be like, ⁓ that says Huard it doesn't say Johnson on the back of his jersey.

Neil (17:44)
Mm-hmm.

That's true.

I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know, it could make a difference.

Nick (18:03)
potentially. I mean it adds another element to it. But they run the punt unit out there and 80s back to punt which is normal. I mean I think he's a little taller but that's not something that you're really paying attention to.

Neil (18:17)
mean, the

only way that this would be noticeable is if you and I were out there with the same number.

Nick (18:22)
Yeah, that's why this is called the height differential. Yes, we could not pull that. It would not work. ⁓ But they converted to fourth and six by Huard And dude, this guy's like a former five star recruit. And this is like his shining moment in college football because he hasn't really lived up to the hype. He's played for Washington, for Cal Poly, and now for USC. But yeah, they run a fake punt on fourth and six and they're

Neil (18:27)
No.

Ha ha.

Hey! Hey!

Nick (18:52)
Third string QB is back there instead of the punter, wearing number 80

Neil (18:55)
Kudos to USC and the coaching staff for thinking of this, being creative with this and using that to, like you said, the dual numbers to your advantage. mean, good on them for thinking of something like this. why are we allowing, why do we allow the same numbers? It's just, it doesn't make, why? It doesn't make sense. Cause stuff like this happens. It's, you could say it's by the book, but like, let's do like what they do in horse racing. You got two play, you got one.

Nick (19:12)
I was going to get in there.

Neil (19:23)
in 1A. You got 5 and 5A or 80 and 80A. Put the A on the jersey so you know who is who. But you should not have two number 80s out there to try to purposely deceive the other team. It's not cheating but it feels like cheating.

Nick (19:39)
So and look, they updated the roster like they could have caught it. But you have to thumb, you're gonna thumb through that every game to make sure they're not changing stuff. And I mean, let's be honest, if I'm number 80A, that's kind of lame. Like what's your number, 80A?

Neil (19:44)
They could've.

No, not for a punner.

So you're

gonna go triple, so you want triple digit numbers?

Nick (20:01)
I don't know, like there's more than 100 guys on these rosters are so big.

Neil (20:04)
There is.

Yeah, there is. So you either have to go triple digit numbers or you go with 80A, 80B.

Nick (20:12)
we can start going letters.

Neil (20:14)
We got double Z out there, ZX. Like LP.

Nick (20:20)
What's worse, you're being, are you number X or would you rather be ADA?

Neil (20:25)
It's BADA.

Nick (20:27)
But there's a lot of people out there saying that this should not be legal. It should be 100 % be a penalty.

Neil (20:32)
Or just or

you just put it like like you said, it's usually it's an offensive player and a defensive player with the same name. So you got two number 56 is number 56. ⁓ that's the offensive guy 56 D. That's the defensive guy and you know who's who.

Nick (20:47)
But how so how big are you putting this O or this D on their jersey?

Neil (20:52)
I know, you just make it fit.

Nick (20:54)
Like, are you just doing a little O, like little D next to it?

Neil (20:59)
Maybe. Yeah, probably, mean, like, you make it fit. Yeah, it's a little bit smaller than the number, but at least some kind of identifier.

Nick (21:06)
Are other teams gonna try to pull this down? Like I'll give them credit like you thought of it. Nobody has thought of it.

Neil (21:11)
Well,

like I said, the credit, mean, the absolute credit goes to them. But I mean, now other teams might still try to pull it. I mean, do you take a lesson from you from like, do you take a lesson out of this if you're a coach and now all of sudden you are thumbing through the roster to make sure that nobody's changed their number from the previous roster from the week before? Like, probably not.

Nick (21:37)
Well, the

Northwestern coaching staff was like, yeah, it's on us. Like, that's never gonna happen again.

Neil (21:43)
mean, maybe the other coaching staffs take a note from Northwestern's failures, but I don't know. I just never thought this was the kind of thing would happen.

Nick (21:56)
Yeah, another thing you could do is they could have different color numbers maybe. So like instead of if you're wearing a white jersey and your number's red, maybe there's a black 80 and there's a red 80. That would be cooler, then I don't have to be 88. I'm just saying this is all over on the top of my head.

Neil (22:03)
⁓ yeah.

Black. Yeah.

I think that's actually probably, yeah, no, I think that's probably the one, yeah.

That's probably the way it should go. You're right, just change the color of the actual number.

Nick (22:25)
Because nobody's going to get a chain that's ADA. Like, if you're getting a chain with your number on it, you're not going to get an ADA chain. So I mean, I don't want people to be proud of their numbers.

Neil (22:31)
What up?

That's true. No, I think you're right. I think you do like you said, the different color of the number on the jersey is probably the way to go. It's good call.

Nick (22:44)
Yeah,

think it took a little time, but I think we might have solved this.

Neil (22:49)
And

if you're the NCA, I wouldn't be surprised if they, I mean, if they look at this and they're like, all right, this isn't really fair. I mean, it's fair, but it's not. Maybe they do like make that rule change of like, okay, we need to have a better way of identifying who's who.

Nick (23:03)
Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, working games, you see that this is an issue because when you're recording tackles and stuff like that on special teams, you don't always know who it is. And you got to run over to the other team's SID that you're statting for and be like, was this this 80 or was it this 80? And then they'll tell you. So like I've seen it on the stat in, which really, doesn't affect the game, but now it's, it's affecting the game.

Neil (23:27)
Yeah. And it

is illegal. You cannot have the same number in the game at the same time. So if your offensive and defensive guy are both number five, they can't be on a punt team at the same time. Otherwise, that is a penalty. So least you have that. You don't have to worry.

Nick (23:44)
Well, I mean, that would be really confusing having them both on the field at same damn time.

Neil (23:48)
Well, I'm at home. ⁓

Nick (23:51)
So I don't know, the Indiana just continue to find ways to win and then Texas Tech to me are the stories of the, I guess do we give Kentucky some credit for just putting it on Florida? think Mike Mark Stoops is four and one in the last five years against Florida when they hadn't beat them in like 40 years. So, and we talk about the Auburn Kentucky game where nobody could score and then Auburn and Kentucky both go and put up 40.

Neil (24:13)
Yeah, no, they took it to them on Saturday, that's for sure.

Yeah.

Nick (24:21)
In the next week, it just, doesn't make sense, but.

Neil (24:24)
It does not

make sense.

Nick (24:26)
And then I guess kind of converting to the NFL.

I guess we can start with the game was in Germany, right? The first ever game in Germany.

Neil (24:35)
Yeah, Berlin.

Yeah, I was in Berlin. Yeah, first game.

Nick (24:39)
And the Colts figure out a way to win late. Daniel Jones on the third and 21 where they were down three rushes for 19 to get them to fourth and two. They're able to convert that kick of Phil go to get it to OT and then Jonathan Taylor. They were, mean, they were already in field goal range, but went ahead and took care of it and gotten to the end zone, 200 rushing yards, three touchdowns for Jonathan Taylor today.

Neil (25:04)
He's a beast.

Nick (25:04)
Only

only four players in the history of the NFL have two games of 200 yards and three touchdowns We do a quick little spur of the moment trivia Can you get? Rushing yes 200 rushing yards three TDs Jonathan Taylor did that today for the second time in his career There's only four players that have done it two times Can you name the other three not Cory Dillon?

Neil (25:16)
This is rushing. Russia. Yeah.

Corey Dillon.

Who was that running back from the Jamal Lewis?

Nick (25:35)
No.

Neil (25:35)
Chris Johnson?

Nick (25:35)
You want,

no, you got to get one of these. These are all just hall of famers.

Neil (25:41)
alright. Bo Jackson.

Nick (25:43)
No.

Neil (25:43)
Barry Sanders, Walter Payton.

Nick (25:45)
No.

No.

I was gonna give you three strikes, but I think this is kind of funny

Three more guesses, rapid fire, go. Just name great running backs. You don't know anymore? No, no.

Neil (25:56)
did. Emmett Smith. Emmett Smith has to be on the list.

Oh my god.

UGH

Nick (26:01)
One is

active, one is active, the other two are not.

Neil (26:05)
Derrick Henry? Gah. And how many more? One more or two more?

Nick (26:06)
Yes.

Soon one.

Neil (26:13)
Both Hall of Famers.

Nick (26:14)
Yep. Yep.

Neil (26:15)
Jim Brown?

Okay? Getting better now.

Nick (26:19)
We're getting there. One more. Do you me to give it to you do want to get it? Nope.

Neil (26:20)
for Danny Tomlinson.

Nick (26:23)
This is not good radio, you're just sitting here thinking.

Neil (26:25)
I don't know. Give me the last one.

Nick (26:29)
Adrian Peterson.

Neil (26:31)
yeah. Yeah.

Nick (26:33)
So, I mean, and you talk about another guy, John, I mean, we've talked all about Daniel Jones because this all came out of nowhere pretty much this year, but Johnson Taylor maybe needs to be in the MVP conversation.

Neil (26:46)
I think he is the MVP as of right now. I mean, I think so. mean, he's playing back to his Jonathan Taylor standards. Like when he's healthy, he's the best running back in the league. But he's got the Colts sitting there. What they now? Seven and two, eight and two? What are we here? Eight and two in first place on the way to the playoffs. mean, he's got to be, to me, I think he's the MVP.

Nick (26:48)
Is it?

Yeah, and sauce sauce his first game as a as a colt jumped her out Looked like he was gonna take it to the house office hands

Neil (27:20)
Maybe add a little too much sauce on his fingers.

Nick (27:22)
I think he only, like you talked last week about how he's kind of regressed a little bit. He's still what, only in his what, fourth year? But he, think he only has three or four picks in his career. Like he doesn't have the best hands. He's just, he's a good corner. He's a good corner.

Neil (27:29)
Yeah.

Got some sauce on the finger. He's got the buffalo wild,

got a little buffalo wild wings garlic parm sauce on his fingers. Butter, maybe got some butter on the fingers.

Nick (27:43)
Yup.

⁓ The Pats and the Bucks, which I thought was going to be one of the better games of the day and it turned out to be that. One of our favorite things is when you get the advantage and what we call the advantage is when you defer in the first half. So you get the advantage of having the ball to start the second half and you love the double. The double is when you score what within the last minute of the first half, get the ball.

Neil (28:11)
That's what makes it

an advantage. That's why it's called the advantage. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Nick (28:15)
Heck yeah. It is an advantage. It's 100 % an advantage. You could be down 14 points, score

with 30 seconds to go, get the ball, score, and you're tied. And your defense didn't have to do anything. That's why it is the advantage. So, New England got the ball inside the 10 with like three seconds left at the end of the first half. They go for it instead of kicking the field goal. Drake May finds, digs.

Neil (28:24)
Yes.

Yes. Correct.

Nick (28:44)
in the corner of the end zone toe taps, now they lead 14 to 10. Get the ball to start the second half, Trevion Henderson to the house, just like that. You were down 14 to seven, just like that, now it's 21 to 10.

Neil (28:59)
You were down 10-7, you said 14-7.

Nick (29:01)
You were down 10-7,

yeah. Just like that. It's hard, dude. It's been a long day. ⁓

Neil (29:05)
I don't know. But

no, they pulled off the advantage. They pulled off, yeah, like the double. That's what you're supposed to do.

Nick (29:14)
Travion Henderson, I think was the first rookie to have two 50 plus yard touchdowns in a game. The Patriots are real.

Neil (29:26)
They are very real. Yeah.

Nick (29:28)
I

you know how I am on the the bucks and they didn't go away. They still had a chance late, but.

Now, good on, good on, on, variable.

Neil (29:36)
Patriots are the surprise. I think

they're the surprise of the NFL so far this season.

Nick (29:42)
Yeah, I think it's probably a year earlier than maybe a lot of people thought too.

Neil (29:46)
Yeah.

Nick (29:47)
⁓ what the, what in the world was the dolphins in the bills game?

Neil (29:52)
What are the dolphins all of a sudden? What are they doing?

Nick (29:57)
Well, they were terrible last week.

Neil (29:59)
Yeah, but the week before they put

up 34 on the Falcons and 134.10 on the road in Atlanta. And then, you know, like they come out again, they weren't bad last week, they went put up six against the Ravens, but you know, put up 30 on Buffalo and to beat them 30 to 13.

Nick (30:14)
When the weather's nice,

who throws a good ball?

Neil (30:17)
mean, once Tyreke went out, the locker room seemed to be a mess. Mike McDaniel doesn't know if he's gonna have a job the next day. The owners won't walk two feet off his own airplane. And all of a sudden they got a little fight in them all of a sudden.

Nick (30:31)
Yeah, and they're in the locker room post game and in the laundry baskets, you know, the big laundry baskets with wheels on them. They're all there's three of them. They're all in them pushing them around having a good old time in the locker room. But I mean, dude, Josh Allen had a pick and a lost fumble just did not look comfortable. They were picking the end zone. I mean, we keep putting the bills towards the top of our rankings. I mean, just and we won't do this today. We'll do it on Wednesday, but.

Neil (30:43)
I mean that

Nick (31:02)
How much you gonna penalize the Bills after this one? Now they've lost sloppy games to the Falcons and the Dolphins. The loss against the Pats doesn't look as bad as it did when it happened.

Neil (31:08)
Yup. Yup.

No, that's correct.

Nick (31:15)
So the Ravens of it do what?

Neil (31:16)
Also, yeah, we do

have some company in the NFL. The Bengals have some company as they are not the only team to lose to the New York Jets. The Jets are on a two-game winning streak after losing their first, what, 6-7. So, Justin Field, I they put up some decent number, 27 points today.

Nick (31:28)
Yeah.

Well,

it wasn't because of Justin Fields.

Neil (31:36)
No, they had a, ⁓ they got a kick return and what?

Nick (31:38)
Justin Fields was

6 of 11 for 54 yards and they won.

Neil (31:42)
I mean, they did have a kickoff return and

a punt return. So yes, it was not because of Justin Fields, but as a team, they played, I guess, well enough.

Nick (31:51)
I mean, we made Justin Fields look like he was once again playing for Ohio State two weeks ago. And then he goes for 50 something yards today. Yeah.

Neil (31:55)
Yeah.

They only let him throw the ball 11 times. They ran it 33

times and only threw it 11. So they basically took it out of his hands. Yeah.

Nick (32:06)
Yeah, they didn't need to. ⁓

Sticking in the AFC North, the Ravens have now won three straight.

Neil (32:15)
They're gonna win the Super Bowl, aren't they?

Nick (32:17)
They're not going to Super Bowl, their defense was as much as their problem as it was obviously Lamar being out. He wasn't out for all six of those games to start one and five, but in those first six games, they allowed 32 points per game. We talked about how bad the AFC North defenses were and they had three takeaways in the first six games. In their three game winning streak, they have allowed 14 points per game and have seven takeaways.

Neil (32:36)
Yeah.

Nick (32:47)
So maybe we shouldn't have done the little segment on how bad ASC North defenses are because since we've done that, the Ravens defenses kind of looked more like what we're accustomed to seeing.

Neil (33:01)
Yeah, and then the Steelers defense last week for six turnovers against the Colts. So both those defenses have seemed to figure it out. And speaking of Steelers defense, they're playing right now in a baseball score out in LA, five to three chargers up on the Steelers with seven a half left to play in the second. So it looks like their defense has also figured it out a little bit since we talked about it.

Nick (33:23)
Well, I don't know if you know this, the Bengals have not allowed a touchdown today. So there may be other defenses figuring it out too.

Neil (33:28)
about that. Or a yard.

Yeah, they're all sitting at home right now on their couches.

Nick (33:37)
Have you seen the AI where they're all working at Skyline?

Neil (33:40)
No, but they should all end up there.

Nick (33:44)
Just how deep it's

just talking about how they're so much better at making chili dogs and they are stopping opposing all.

Neil (33:49)
They'd

probably drop the food on the floor.

Nick (33:52)
Yeah, it's another missed tackle.

Neil (33:53)
But

how about the New Orleans, can we talk about the New Orleans Saints and our guy Tyler Schuck today?

Nick (33:59)
Yeah, tell me about it.

Neil (34:00)
Tyler Schuck gets his first NFL win as an NFL starter, 19 to 27, 282 yards and two touchdowns. Pretty good numbers. Saints get their second win of the season. They beat the Panthers 17 to seven on the road to improve to two and eight. But Tyler Schuck, first win, played well, like I said, 282 yards, two touchdowns, had two bombs, one to Chris Alave for a touchdown. And who else did he have?

Jawan Johnson had a long one as well in that game on the completion. So, good for our guy.

Nick (34:34)
Yeah. And, and

at a week after beating the Packers, the Panthers lose this thing. It's like, explain to me the NFL.

Neil (34:45)
You can't. I've said this all year, I don't know who's good. Like the Bills aren't good clearly. mean, the Patriots the best team now in league? When we do our draft this week? Who are we putting? Like we're not putting the Buccaneers up there. The Bills have slid. The Leafs are losing.

Nick (34:55)
No. You might, I'm not.

I'll tell you who's good. You

want me tell you who's good? The Rams.

Neil (35:05)
See ya. I'm sick of it. See ya.

Nick (35:07)
The Seahawks and the

Rams are both good and they're both in the same division. The Rams have now, they've won four straight all by 14 or more points. And Matt Stafford, the first NFL player in NFL history with three straight games of four TDs, no picks.

Neil (35:22)
Yeah, they are good. You're at 42 points. mean, Seahawks put up 44 today.

Nick (35:29)
and that's too straight. Just stand out performances by the Seahawks too.

Neil (35:33)
Let's see what all Sam Darnold did today. Eh, not his greatest game. Only threw a ball 12 times, 10 of 12, 178 yards for Sam Darnold, one touchdown, one pick. 198 yards on there, 46 carries in the game for the Seahawks.

Nick (35:47)
Well, Neil,

it was 38 to seven and half time. wasn't really a lot of reasons to throw the football there in the second half.

Neil (35:54)
Unless you're a Sam Darnold fantasy owner, there's reasons.

Nick (36:01)
I don't want to get no big fan but I forgot to update my dang teams like two of my teams. What are you doing? Like my teams are already terrible. Like I never do that. I don't understand like

Neil (36:14)
You're about

to be writing a 10 page paper on the Fract of Furious franchise.

Nick (36:18)
dude.

The Hooties are really bad. They're really bad. And all three of my teams are really bad. And I'm used to winning leagues or being competitive. Joe, getting hurt in week two, really put a damper on my season and we have not been able to get out of that funk. So.

Neil (36:40)
So the Hoodies

and the Hoodays, both terrible franchises.

Nick (36:42)
The Hooties,

the Coughenails, and Squeeze Play. All three are close, if they're not in the basement, close to it. And the Hooties will not be defending their crown. So the belt's in my house right now, but I'll be giving it to somebody else. Unfortunately. I guess the Texans' second largest comeback in their franchise history and the Jags' biggest blown lead ever. They came back from 19 down?

Neil (36:49)
Nice.

Yeah, they were down 19 going to the fourth quarter and got outscored 26-0 in the fourth. I the last touchdown was just the last play of the game. ⁓ Trevor Lawrence fumbled into the hands of Sheldon, Big Sheldon Rankins, who ran it back for a touchdown to end the game. So it's kind of an insignificant touchdown, but 26-0 in the fourth quarter. The Texans won. And if you're the Jaguars and Liam Cohen, you're sitting there, you're 5-3 in the thick of the playoff race.

You think you're about to go to six and three, which would put you in real good spot, and all of a sudden now you're five and four and you're falling apart.

Nick (37:46)
Yeah, I mean, but they've done the opposite of what the Ravens have done. And now they're basically a A game separates them too. So I don't know, but it's good for Sheldon Rankin to do something.

Neil (37:52)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Nick (38:03)
Cause

he didn't do much last year in stripes. They never really said, and we don't really need to get into that. But a wasted year, just a bad contract to begin with. Like you lose a run stuffer and you go sign a, like a pass of quarterback rushing tackle.

Neil (38:07)
What did he know? What was... He was out with an illness. What did he have? COVID or something?

Yeah.

Well, it's cuz he sacked Joe, it's cuz he sacked Joe Burrow

two times in a game the year before. And they're like, if you can do that, we want that guy. And cuz he had the two picks, I get to Joe Burrow in that one game too.

Nick (38:33)
100 and that's that's why they got I mean, why do you think you know stones and stripes?

When you

got a limited scouting staff, oh they were good against us. Let's go get them.

Neil (38:46)
⁓ what a philosophy for a franchise.

Nick (38:48)
And it actually plays a role, sadly. It's actually true.

Neil (38:53)
Yeah it is.

Nick (38:55)
of the Lions back to being one of the better teams after just dismantling a commander's team, which is not very good.

Neil (39:02)
I mean,

they put up 44, Gibbs had a couple of touchdowns. I mean, they look like the normal Lions after whatever that was last week against the Minnesota Vikings. So they look like the normal Lions again. So maybe they're back on track. I don't know. This league's just a week by week thing, it seems like.

Nick (39:21)
What is Daron Payne doing? Just like unleashing like a full out just punch into Amon Ross Brown's helmet. Like why how stupid are you to punch a helmet?

Neil (39:35)
Is it not one of the-

It's one of the dumbest things in sports is when football players decide that they're going to fight each other when they all have battle gear on. You're basically you got head to toe and pads and helmets and like anything that you're going to try to throw and land a punch on anywhere on their body is going to end up hurting you more than it's going to hurt them. Like they're wearing gear like they're wearing gear that's designed to protect them from running head on into somebody else on a collision running full speed.

Nick (39:59)
Yeah, and you're gonna get tossed!

Neil (40:09)
and you're gonna throw a punch and think that that's gonna do something? Just stupid.

Nick (40:14)
It's, I get it, like adrenaline and making bad decisions and all that. I don't know what led to him wanting to throw the punch. It looked like they were talking a little bit, but yeah, you're going to break your damn hand. Like you're going to break your hand.

Like at least wrestle, try to take his helmet off and then throw the punch. And plus you're going to, you're going to break your hand and get tossed at the same time and not hurt him. And you're not going to hurt him.

Neil (40:28)
Yeah.

and maybe suspended and probably

and you're probably going to get suspended. So least you have a week off now to recover and put some ice on that hand. Get it feeling good for two weeks from now because you probably aren't playing next week.

Nick (40:48)
It's just, I mean, I guess it's not as bad as the spitting that we saw at the beginning of the year, but.

I don't know. What's worse?

So I think that kind of wraps up and if the Broncos on Thursday night, I guess we need to kind of get into that. But how do they just keep winning these ugly games? But that game on Thursday night was awful.

Neil (41:03)
Ugh.

What an ugly...

You're right. You've been all over

Bo Nix and saying that he's not for real. And he was very, very bad on Thursday.

Nick (41:18)
He's not as good as was last year.

Neil (41:21)
No, he's not.

Nick (41:23)
And I mean, there's still what? and two? Seven and two?

Neil (41:28)
8 and 2.

Nick (41:29)
and should have won the Colts game.

Neil (41:31)
I mean, to be fair, they probably should have the best record in the NFL. And they're winning these, scoring 33 on answer points in the fourth quarter against the Giants. This bizarre game and coming back from a couple touchdowns down at Philly. I don't know how they're doing it. They keep doing it, so good for them. But Thursday night's football game was, ugh, bad TV.

Nick (41:54)
Brutal,

brutal. We've had a lot of those on Thursday night. They've been a little better this year, but remember last year, like how bad the Thursday night games were? That one kind of fit the MO of what it was last year, but.

Neil (42:03)
Yeah.

The Icy Hot Bowl was a good one though.

Nick (42:10)
I say, that was my last good memory of the Cincinnati Bengals. It's been all downhill since. It like, we saved the season. We saved the season, we're back. And then you give up, you score 100 points in two games. I was like.

Neil (42:14)
But that was a good Thursday.

Yeah, but that was an entertaining

Thursday, one of the more entertaining Thursday night games we've had this year.

Nick (42:27)
No, it was great. It was great. And today I was really glad that I didn't have to watch Cincinnati Bengals play football, which is just three weeks after that.

So it's November the 9th.

You know who plays in two days?

Neil (42:41)
⁓ let's see. On November 9th, we just started college basketball season, but usually these early early season games are, you know, kind of the. Good teams versus the the by games as we would call them, right? So probably some some was like North Carolina playing like North Carolina A &T.

Nick (43:01)
Yeah, that's what I wanted to talk about was North Carolina and North Carolina A &T. Did you hear my phone drop? I just dropped my phone in the middle of the show. I don't know if you could hear that or not, but no, it is not North Carolina and North Carolina A &T, AT &T. I did not want to do a full segment on that preview.

Neil (43:08)
no.

somebody trying to call you.

What's

Nick (43:20)
The Cats

of the Cards in the Dream Game on November the 11th.

Neil (43:22)
Cats and Cards?

Already?

Nick (43:26)
Yeah, it's the earliest that this game has been played since the rivalry was renewed in 1983. And that the previous earliest game was November the 26th and that was in 1983. They've played as early as December 15th, December 12th. And last year moved up to be December 14th. They've played as late as January 5th. But for the most part, this rivalry has taken place.

from around the 20th to New Year's. So the Christmas, the New Year's window.

Neil (43:59)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Nick (44:02)
Game 3?

Neil (44:03)
It doesn't feel right.

Nick (44:06)
Like we don't know these teams yet. And like, it would be different if this was a game in the eighties or the nineties or the two thousands where you're primarily bringing a lot of the same guys back. But in this era, you're learning all these players on every team. Like all these teams have so many new faces. And now we're getting this game where, look, I'm excited about it. It'll be fun, but it limits it a little bit. The fact that it's game three to me.

Neil (44:34)
Yeah, don't, is it maybe, has it taken a little bit of the excitement? I mean, it's gonna be a sellout crowd, 22,000 there on Tuesday night. I has it taken a little bit of excitement out of the game? Like, you know, when you have it around that mid to late December, at least at these family thanksgivings, you get together with cousin Ed and, know, Aunt Jean, and you sit around and you argue cats and cards and who's gonna win coming up in a few weeks. But now, you

You know, it's already over by the time you see Aunt Jean in Cousin Ed. So, who's gonna throw the mashed potatoes at one another when things get heated? Like, it's already over.

Nick (45:11)
No food fights over basketball games this year because of this.

Neil (45:14)
It's

sad, it's sad, it's sad.

Nick (45:17)
I mean, I didn't love it when I found out about it. I don't love it now. I mean, yeah, it'll be fun, but I don't know enough about Kentucky to really know what the cards needed to win and vice versa. Because the season's so young and...

Neil (45:34)
No. And both

teams, both teams have some guys coming back off injury case in prior for Louisville just came back, got his first action in a year coming off the torn ACL, had his first action against Jackson State. ⁓ Jayden Quaintance for Kentucky won't play. He's still recovering from an ACL low. Their point guard ⁓ got hurt and practice. I think a couple of weeks ago he just came back. So he's coming off an injury. I he played his first couple of minutes or his first minutes in their last game. So

You know, it's some of these guys haven't got a chance to get fully healthy. These rosters won't be at full strength per se, but they're both top 10, top 11 teams in the country. It's still cats and cards. It's going to get heated. So it's. That's all.

Nick (46:22)
It's already got heated a little bit.

Little bulletin board material.

Neil (46:26)
Yeah, I saw. ⁓ But that's what rivalries are. So let's get it on. I'm just glad that both teams are in a spot to where this game is back in the forefront of college basketball. Because for the last couple of years, when Louisville was struggling, mean, there was almost a foregone conclusion of what the outcome was going to be. So looking forward to it.

Nick (46:31)
Do this.

Well, even last year,

nobody really gave Louisville a chance in the game last year.

Neil (46:54)
No, and the cards played well, kept it, I mean it was a close game.

Nick (46:58)
And they had just lost Kason Pryor. So they were adjusting and the fact that they still were kind of hanging around and make it close. But I don't know who the favorite is on Tuesday, but I would imagine it's pretty close. ⁓

Neil (47:00)
Yeah. Yeah.

Let's see.

they put out a line yet?

Nick (47:17)
I haven't seen it. But I mean, either team can win this game, which makes it fun. And that hasn't been the case several times over the last couple of years. having to have them. And look, I mean, not every UK fan is going to say this. Not every UofL fan is going to say this, but it's good for the rivalry when both teams are close to the top 10. mean, that's what makes the rivalry what it is. If they're both

Neil (47:19)
Let's see. Nope, no lie. Yeah.

Yeah. And then you what?

Yeah, absolutely.

Nick (47:46)
not ranked though it's not going to get paid attention to nationally is as much as it is on Tuesday when they're both you know like you said close to the top 10 so but it's before the football game too like it's just all of it is just weird.

Neil (47:57)
I mean, it's

very weird. is. mean, maybe it's a one-year thing. I don't know. It's all up to TV. You know, with these conferences expanding the way that they have, you know, you're playing more conference games, which means conference games are starting earlier. They're bleeding into December. So you're playing, taking up a couple of those Saturdays in December with some conference opponents instead of what your regular non-conference would be. So, I mean, it's early for a reason.

Even though we're not used to it, we might not like it, maybe next year we can get back to the normal timing and people can get back to their Thanksgiving food fights over who's going to win cats and cars.

Nick (48:39)
You gotta have that. You gotta have turkey in the face. You gotta be stuffing the turkey in the dressing up grandpa's nose when he's cussing out the cards and vice versa. So, no, it'll be the place is gonna be popping on Tuesday and it'll be a great environment. I guess we'll learn a lot about both teams on Tuesday night.

Neil (48:43)
We'll pump the pie in the hair.

Yeah, we have to ⁓

Yeah, I mean, beginning of the season we had those exhibition games, know, Louisville versus Kansas, Kentucky versus Purdue and Louisville struggled. They didn't shoot the ball well against Kansas and everybody kind of maybe had a mild panic of like, uh-oh, like what's wrong with the cards? And the cats go and they beat number one Purdue and everybody thinks Kentucky's, you know, the best team in the nation. And then the roles got reversed in the next one where Kentucky loses to Georgetown and you know, maybe their fans came back down to earth a little bit. So.

It's still like you said, it's early, it's a lot of unknowns. I don't know what to expect on Tuesday. I think it'll be a great game, great atmosphere and let's go cards.

Nick (49:42)
Well, we told everybody to kind of their jets on what they're seeing in the exhibitions. Right? Don't read too much into it one way or the other. ⁓

Neil (49:46)
We did.

Nick (49:51)
That wasn't something I wanted to see on the show tonight.

Neil (49:54)
Sorry, to plug in the laptop there.

Nick (49:56)
Yeah.

Yeah, big old butt on the screen. I wasn't really looking forward to that one. But you should have your red, I just saw them. Yeah, I know you have your red pants on. So we're biased. We believe that this rivalry is one of the best in not just college basketball, all of sports. So let's do a little draft. Best rivalries in all of sports, team tall.

Neil (50:04)
I got my red pants on.

Yes.

Okay.

Nick (50:25)
which is not me. Team tall is you. Team small is me. We'll draft, snake draft, four robberies each side and see who gets the better team. You can start. All the sports, you're taller.

Neil (50:28)
Yeah. Yeah.

All of sports and all of sports, right?

So I gotta go first.

And we are, are we, we're including Louisville Kentucky in this or do we just, okay. Okay.

Nick (50:45)
Yes. Yes.

Neil (50:49)
All of sports, I'm going to go start. I'm going to take the first pick with the Yankees Red Sox. I mean, both very, very passionate fan bases, both a history of titles. Red Sox more recently after they went into their long drought in 2004 or whatever it was. I mean, Boston and New York, they hate each other. The people hate each other. The teams hate each other. We've seen multiple brawls on the field. We've got Pedro Martinez throwing down, Don Zimmer.

You know, like Alex Rodriguez getting into it with whoever with Jason Veritek. And so to me, I think that those that's probably the most heated best rivalry in sports, because they're always pretty good. Their payrolls are astronomical, so they always have talent. You can always count on that being a. They do play for you.

Nick (51:36)
And they play 40 million times in every single games on ESPN

Sunday Night Baseball. But it's the right answer. ⁓ I think Laker Celtics. I would go that second. then, I mean, we're going all-time rivalries I'm going Laker Celtics.

Neil (51:48)
Even currently, you still think that that's a right even a current level? I guess. mean, that's more. Yeah.

OK.

Nick (51:55)
And I guess I gotta go Duke, North Carolina.

Neil (51:58)
Mmm.

I'm going Cats Cards. I think Cats Cards is probably the best rivalry in college sports. And you can say, Michigan, Ohio State and Duke, Carolina. But Michigan, Ohio State, you're two separate states. Like lot of times you're not mingling with each other. Cats Cards, you're living next to your door neighbor. You get in arguments with.

Nick (52:21)
Well,

I mean, that's why I just said Duke, North Carolina,

Neil (52:24)
But they play three times a year in most years. They play so much. They play so much it's like, oh, you just got us. Well, we're going to get you back in two weeks. No, Cats Cards, you play one time a year and you have bragging rights for 365 days, except this year it feels like it's 200 something days because we're playing so early. But you have bragging rights for an entire year. You look forward to that one day, that one game. Duke Carolina, you're playing three times in February and March.

Nick (52:28)
And that takes away from it?

Neil (52:54)
Sometimes even in like the final four, it's four times. So, Katz cards, like you're living next door, you hate your neighbor because he's a Katz fan or you hate your neighbor because he's a Katz fan. We had that incident in the dialysis clinic a couple years ago ⁓ where two people were getting dialysis together and they were on opposite sides of the rivalry and they got into a fist fight. So like, this doesn't happen. Like that's just not normal. This is not a normal rivalry. This isn't a big rivalry to me.

For those reasons, I think it's the best in college sports, so I'm taking that.

Nick (53:25)
All right, you got one more.

Neil (53:27)
it is a snake draft. With that being said, we'll go Michigan, Ohio State next, because those two absolutely hate each other. Ohio State refuses to even acknowledge the letter ⁓ in any words that they say. They have a whole song about the state of Michigan that we don't want to sing on here. ⁓ But it's just a heated rivalry. They're always good. Ohio State had the upper hand forever recently, and then Michigan comes and they've won like the last four. ⁓

So I'm going to go Michigan, Ohio State is that pick, my third pick.

Nick (54:02)
Okay, so can I go Ali Frazier

Neil (54:05)
Do our listeners know much about Ali Frazier? Sure. Well, yes, you can. It was awesome. No, it was awesome. Yeah.

Nick (54:09)
I mean, but as far as rivalries, like they're boxing rivalry and right? And

like, I think once you say the top five, which we've done, I think it gets a little harder after that.

I mean, because there's probably some soccer rivalries and some hockey rivalries that we're not as familiar with that probably rank up there. But with us being from the Ville dude and Ali, I'm going to go Ali Frazier. I think it's one of the greatest sports rivalries of all time. And like, I think it just gets a lot more difficult ⁓ after that. Like you start thinking in Auburn, Alabama, maybe.

Neil (54:52)
Yeah.

Nick (54:53)
Start thinking what the other rivalries in baseball, maybe the Dodgers and the Giants, that's not really, we're on the other side of the coast. Like we don't really see that one as much. Cowboys and the Giants.

Neil (55:03)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (55:07)
I just think it gets tougher after those top five. And that's why I'm going to go Ali and Frazier. then, I mean, the Cowboys, like, just because they're such a legendary team, like all their rivalries, right? With Washington, with the Giants, with the Eagles, which makes it hard to pick one of them. The Bears and the Packers, I think, for the history of the NFL, maybe is, so maybe that's what I'll go, I'll go Bears-Packers.

Neil (55:33)
Yeah

Nick (55:37)
and Ali Frazier.

Neil (55:39)
Okay.

I guess, I mean, for my last pick, I guess since you didn't say it, it's gonna be Auburn, Alabama. I mean, they're in the same conference, so they play every year in football. Basketball is not much of, mean, I don't know if they really care about basketball down in those states in Alabama, but we'll go Auburn versus Alabama. You got the guy, old Harvey Updyke who got mad that they put...

Nick (55:40)
But it does get tougher.

Neil (56:08)
with a Cam Newton jersey on Paul Bear Bryant's statue. And the man went absolute crazy and decided to go poison the trees, the tumor's corner in Auburn. when you got fan bases doing stuff like that, you know it's a heated rivalry. Alabama's controlled that rivalry for the most part in the last decade. So they had that one incredible game that kicked six return ⁓ with Chris Davis.

back in 2013, which was one of the best games of recent.

Nick (56:40)
But that just shows you

how important it is, teams being good. And not being a one sided. Army Navy football, we left that one out.

Neil (56:42)
Yeah.

Yeah. No.

that's it. That's in there. Yeah.

Nick (56:53)
But

I do, think you got your first five, I think it's pretty easy, but then it gets a little tougher after that.

Neil (56:59)
Yeah, Army, Navy should definitely be on that list.

Nick (57:03)
Tell me

about this dude in Florida.

Neil (57:05)
⁓ let's pull that out for you here. So yes, dude in Florida.

Raises chickens? Let find his name here. Pull him up for ya.

Nick (57:15)
Raises chickens. Florida man raising chickens is gonna be good.

Neil (57:16)
Yeah, raises a chick.

Let's find his name here for a second.

There he is. The title of the article, a Florida man opened fire after a bar argument about how many eggs a chicken can lay.

So, let's pull this up here.

Nick (57:36)
How many eggs can a chicken lay?

Is there like a limited number?

Neil (57:39)
The man's name is Peter Riera, R-I-E-R-A. 44 years old, and based on his mugshot, he looks like he's 65. Old looking dude. 44 year old fired shots Tuesday morning outside of Harper's Pub and police body cam have the footage. He raised his chickens and got into an argument with three people outside the pub who were trying to, who claims were trying to con him. I guess over how much the dispute was about how many eggs

chicken kinlay. Like, we've seen things... why does all the weird stuff seem to happen in Florida? I mean, what's going on down there?

Nick (58:16)
This is why they call them Florida guys.

Neil (58:20)
What are you, first of all, what are you doing with, we can talk about it because nobody got shot and the two guys you did shoot at ended up being arrested by police as well for disorderly conduct.

Nick (58:28)
mean, drugs were involved in this. They had to be,

Neil (58:31)
Like, you're getting into a bar argument over chicken eggs. And you're like, huh, well, I think my chicken can lay 22 eggs. And then they're like, no, your chicken can lay 16 eggs. And you're like, yeah? Pop, pop. Like, whoa, whoa. Like, what is going on?

Nick (58:33)
And your job. Later on.

Prove it!

So is that like a chicken skill? Like some chickens can lay more eggs than other chickens. I don't know nothing about the chicken industry.

Neil (58:56)
How are you so passionate

about chickens that it escalates into this?

Nick (59:01)
Well, you're obviously passionate about it. your life. It's your livelihood. It's how you're making your money. Those chicken eggs. But I didn't know there was like champion chickens that could lay more eggs than other chickens. Like are there bad chickens that can barely lay any eggs?

Neil (59:13)
Apparently.

Like, maybe. Like usually, like usually you go to a bar and you know, there's the occasional bar arguments and bar fights. Usually it's over, you know, how somebody looked at somebody or somebody something said to somebody or, you know, you're hitting on some guy's girlfriend or boyfriend and they didn't like it or you're arguing like us over sports. But chicken eggs, chicken eggs. Like no, none of that, none of that.

Nick (59:18)
I don't know how works.

Yeah, that's this whole show came to be. We're like, chicken eggs. I'm not gonna argue

about chicken eggs with you, I know that.

Neil (59:45)
I don't know anything about chicken eggs. But none of the normal bar argument stuff, it was all about chicken eggs. So this guy's going to jail, because he decided to bring a gun to a bar fight, which you should never do, and argue about chickens.

Nick (59:58)
And we know this is true story, like we're not getting pumped again like we did on the breadstick story.

Neil (1:00:02)
Now this was reported by TMZ, so I'm gonna say that it's reputable.

Nick (1:00:06)
So, I don't know, let's just quit shooting people, period.

Neil (1:00:11)
start with there. That's step one.

Leave the guns at home, lock them up, and bring your fists to the chicken fight.

Nick (1:00:19)
And let's video, like, don't, let's get some proof of how many chickens, your eggs, your chicken can lay and you just show it. And then you can prove your point and you ain't got to argue about it. Like, look, here's proof. 22 eggs. Like I said.

No need to get the gun out.

Neil (1:00:37)
Leave the guns at home.

Nick (1:00:39)
Hey, let's head, let's right now let's head to the barn. I'll show you what you can watch it. 22 eggs. I'll even, I'll even give you a Budweiser as you're waiting.

Neil (1:00:50)
That's like a deal. ⁓ Yeah, but yeah, don't know. Something's in the water down in Florida.

Nick (1:00:53)
Florida.

So, I mean, the Bengals didn't play today. And when I came home from the cards game, I didn't want to watch football because the 4pm games were not great. So I started watching.

Neil (1:01:06)
No. I thought the Lions commanders

would have been alright, but that was a blowout.

Nick (1:01:10)
⁓ none of the games were close. So I started watching some Pro Pickleball.

Number one pro pickleball player, women's side, Anna Lee Waters.

Neil (1:01:19)
Anna Lee Waters? Okay.

Nick (1:01:22)
She's on TV again, I'll probably watch it again.

Neil (1:01:25)
Okay, got you a little crush on Annali?

Nick (1:01:28)
Well, look, she's only 18. She's

been pro pickleball player since she was like 12. And she's 18 years old and the number one female pickleball player in the world.

Neil (1:01:38)
How many pro pickleball players are there?

Nick (1:01:40)
Don't know. You're asking me questions. just now, today...

Neil (1:01:43)
I mean, don't even worry, I enjoy

pickleball. It's a great recreational sport. Get outside, get some exercise. I play usually three times a week, one day Wednesday, Friday mornings. So it's a great game, but to be that good, that young, it's good for her.

Nick (1:02:03)
Yeah, but yeah, if Annali Waters is on TV playing pickleball in the future, I might check it out. And I might advise you to check it out as well.

Neil (1:02:11)
You've got it.

So like on your DirecTV, you, you know, you can schedule recordings, can you just put in Anna Lee Waters and it just records whenever she's playing pickleball?

Nick (1:02:22)
I haven't tried that yet, but maybe something to do after I'm done editing the episode tonight.

Neil (1:02:28)
I don't know, the way YouTube TV is going right now, I might not get the channel the pickleballs on.

Nick (1:02:33)
When they gonna get ESPN back dude?

Neil (1:02:36)
I don't know, but the bars in the state of Kentucky are gonna be packed to the gills on Tuesday night when half of the state can't get ESPN to watch the game.

Nick (1:02:45)
Did my login work for you yesterday?

Neil (1:02:47)
Yeah, that was great. Appreciate that,

Nick (1:02:49)
You know I got you. I'm one of the few that haven't switched to YouTube.

Neil (1:02:52)
You are one of the few that has

stayed with the DirecTV.

Nick (1:02:56)
Yeah. But yeah.

Neil (1:02:58)
Are

we going to start getting this cable making a comeback? Do we need to plug the cords back in? We're all cutting cords. Do we need to get the cords back out of the closet?

Nick (1:03:06)
I don't think the cords are coming up back out of the closet. I think it's pretty much done. It's kind like the newspaper industry. It's there, but it's diminishing quickly.

Neil (1:03:12)
They need to figure it out. YouTube needs to figure

it out. And if you're at the NFL, the NFL is going to make them figure it out because you're affecting Monday Night Football.

Nick (1:03:22)
Yeah, but evidently they're not budging, so.

Neil (1:03:27)
They're me a $20 credit.

Nick (1:03:29)
Yeah, but not it's like if it's an extended amount of time without telling you how long that extended amount of time is right or did they already kick in the $20 credit?

Neil (1:03:38)
No, I got

the email today. The $20 credit goes on the next You have to claim it, but it goes on the next bill.

Nick (1:03:45)
me 20 bucks take my 20 bucks and give me ESPN back a much further heavy ESPN back but this is this is one of the longest ones that I remember

Neil (1:03:49)
100 %

Yeah,

it's unusual. Yeah, usually they last a couple days and they figure it out, but.

Nick (1:03:59)
Well, it's very unfortunate that you would not have been able to watch Annali Waters because I'm pretty sure it was on ESPN. So, tough beat for you.

Neil (1:04:07)
They're depriving

me of my my pickleball watch pickleball viewing

Nick (1:04:12)
But yeah, I recommend it.

Neil (1:04:15)
Easy cowboy.

Nick (1:04:16)
Ha!

It was heck of a lot better than watching the Bengals.

Neil (1:04:19)
Well, I mean, could watch Bob Ross paint a picture for four hours and have more enjoyment watching the Bengals.

Nick (1:04:26)
Dude, you know all this AI stuff? They're starting to do them with Bob Ross.

Neil (1:04:31)
What does that mean?

Nick (1:04:32)
They're doing like him painting stuff and it's like just funny memes of him just punning painting funny things. Hey, hey, was out of control. All these, these rap songs that are being played in 50 style music. Have you heard all those like Snoop and Eminem and Dr. Dre, all these songs and they're being played in 1950 style and they're good.

Neil (1:04:36)
I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen it. I have seen those videos.

I've heard a few, yes.

Nick (1:04:57)
They're good. And it probably takes four seconds to create them. It's AI, man. It's just, it's going to keep getting wilder and wilder.

Neil (1:04:58)
They are good.

Dollars don't stop.

Nick (1:05:09)
So, all right, but Katz cards on Tuesday. Excited for that one on November 11th. Let's get this thing in early. And look, here's the thing. At least you got bragging rights. If the cards win, you got bragging rights. You can throw mashed potatoes at grandpa who's a Katz fan instead of arguing about who's going to win. You know who's going to win. And you can just start off dinner by throwing mashed potatoes at his face.

Neil (1:05:31)
That's true.

Maybe they won't, maybe grandpa won't, lose, grandpa won't show up to the Thanksgiving. Mostly. Yeah, you got it, grandpa.

Nick (1:05:41)
Now you want grandfather

you want grandfather. Well, all right. I got nothing else

Neil (1:05:47)
Alright, well,

don't stay up too late tonight watching Annalee Waters pickleball highlights.

Nick (1:05:52)
Dude, it's over. And I think I took

a nap during the match too.

Neil (1:05:57)
Don't stay up too late. Check it out YouTube highlights of the Annamie Waters Pickleball. Get yourself some sleep tonight.

Nick (1:05:58)
All is out.

I will, I will, we'll get some good rest. We'll be back on Wednesday, which will be just a day after the cast cards game, able to break that down a little bit. We'll get into, we'll do some NFL rankings and hopefully we'll have some kind of crazy off the wall stories to kind of break down and.

Neil (1:06:19)
Yeah, we'll have a updated college football playoff ranking, so hopefully this time you'll understand that you know Memphis. Or whoever that non power five for qualifies into the playoff because you thought Texas was in the playoff.

Nick (1:06:34)
Well, I'm not one of the smartest people, and that's admitted. And also, it's now James Madison who is the most likely non-Power 5 or Power 4 to get in.

Neil (1:06:43)
Yeah.

Yeah. Go Dukes.

Nick (1:06:48)
Alright, that's enough. We'll be with you on Wednesday. You've been listening to the height differential Make sure you're following us on all the platforms Spotify Apple music YouTube however, you get your you get your podcast and hit that subscribe button