Michigan Wins It All, Transfer Portal Surge & Masters Draft Picks

Nick (00:12.27)
All right. You ready to this?

Neil (00:15.312)
Mm-hmm.

Nick (00:19.138)
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The big tournament are both over. Watched lot of hoops over the last three weeks. But on the men's side.

Neil (00:41.321)
It's over.

It's over.

Nick (00:48.302)
After Saturday, seeing what they did to Arizona and then beating Yukon in a game that wasn't the style they wanted to play, I think it's pretty obvious that the best team won the national title.

Neil (01:01.511)
Yeah, I mean, we've talked about Michigan all year long and how they've been so dominant and you know, all those 30 plus point wins and some of those 30 plus point wins against really good teams, especially early in the year. And they just proved all tournament that they were still that team and they were dominant, especially that final four game against Arizona where they just beat the brakes off of Arizona. And then into the championship game where they, you know, it was back and forth early and then.

And then Michigan kind of took control late in the first half and never really relinquished that control.

Nick (01:36.398)
They did it, but UConn also did, I mean, they played the game the style they wanted to. They just couldn't get shots to fall. And despite that, they shot 31 % of the game. Despite that, they still had a chance with the under two minutes to go. you know, it came down to the fact that they just couldn't make enough shots and they killed

They killed Michigan on the glass. They had 21, 22 offensive rebounds, but they just, they started 0-11 from three. The left rim in the championship game, the left side, if you're watching on TV, that rim was 0 for night first, first night team from three. Michigan was 0 for eight in the first half. And then Yukon started 0 for 11 in the second half from three. And

Neil (02:14.643)
Wanted to, yeah.

Neil (02:28.617)
He

Nick (02:35.798)
I wanted to go back and try to find the numbers for Saturday because I was actually talking to James Breeding via text and we were the lead official. used to be our boss at the Louisville Bats and I was a professor at UofL. It was really cool seeing him do the game. was on TV a lot. But we were to him and we were talking about that left rim and he said, it was like that the whole tournament. So I'd like to figure out what the numbers were on Saturday too on that left side because I don't have them.

Neil (02:52.413)
Yeah, go for James.

Neil (03:03.625)
What do you look like there just a little tighter than the right room like this tighten the screws a little too much off the not level I Mean yeah, you talk about you can I'm missing shots But I mean they they out shot Michigan from 39 three-pointers Michigan had to Michigan was 215 from 3 13 % I mean each team was below 40 % for the game. So yeah, Connecticut didn't make shots, but Michigan wasn't making shots either

Nick (03:07.86)
Or it's just a coincidence. Or it's just a coincidence.

Nick (03:29.302)
No, mean combined they were 11 for 48 for 23%. I think it was overall percentage wise it was the second worst national championship game we've seen. But I mean despite all that, it's 62 to 56 with just over two minutes to go and it's when Reed gets that steal at the top of the key.

or not the top of the key, more closer to midcourt. And he can't really catch up with the ball, stumbles and grabs it before he goes out of bounds, hands it back to Soloball. He's got a chance to lay it in, to cut the lead to four. And if they can get that lead to four there, where this is a team that just never loses in the tournament, they were 19 and 0 in games beyond the Sweet 16 since 2011, if Soloball can finish that layup that cuts it to four, instead,

Neil (03:57.481)
Yeah.

Nick (04:26.731)
Michigan goes the other way in transition. I think it was Morris Johnson who almost lost it underneath the rim was fumbling it by his legs found got it to go over the corner who then found Tray McKinney who ball came flying past him. He stepped back and knocked down that three. That's a five point swing. It goes to where Michigan or Yukon's got a chance to get it to four. Instead McKinney hits a three on the other end. And really that was kind of curtains. They got a chance.

when they had back-to-back turnovers and then Caravan had the chance came off that screen and had a chance to shoot a three from about three or four feet beyond the arc and just left it short. That would have got it to one. They had it back to four there. So it really is incredible that UConn had a chance to win this game. But when you're a team as good as Michigan, you can win games multiple ways and

They did that. They had 55 possessions in this game and they normally want to be more closer to 64, 65. They had 75 in the win over Arizona, which was one of the most of the season. So credit to UConn for making Michigan play their way, but I think more credit to Michigan for figuring out a way to win a game where it really wasn't their style of play.

Neil (05:49.353)
Yeah, like you said, they had chances. They definitely had chances to get back in this thing and it just didn't bounce their way.

Michigan to me was the better team. They were the better team all year. This was their championship and then they proved it.

Nick (06:06.689)
But it meant when Caravan got that shot, when it left his hands, you thought it was going in, because that's what this team does.

Neil (06:13.664)
He did. That happens, yeah. That's why I mean Mullins had a good game Mullins stepped up again. I mean, what did he have? How many threes had Mullins have about four, three or four?

Nick (06:17.421)
And what

He didn't know nobody shot well. He had a lot of shots to get to the points he had.

Nick (06:28.621)
Yeah, but he took him. was Mullins was three attend from three. Caravan was three attend from three. Solo ball was three or seven. the and honestly the bank in three that ball had really kind of was the first one that gave them a chance there at the end of the game. They called timeout after that and then got the still. And then you had the play where it looked like it was going to be well, what they call the top all where it looked like maybe Trey McKinney walked.

Neil (06:30.313)
4. He was here. He was worth it.

Neil (06:41.308)
man. Really?

Neil (06:45.854)
Yeah.

Nick (06:58.593)
They were art talking about that on whether he, but look, dude, they don't call walks anymore. Like, do people even care about your pivot foot?

Neil (07:00.605)
Yeah.

Nick (07:08.557)
And then after the caravan miss where they go to the monitor but out of desperation on on the elbow but here's another thing too and Michigan deserves a lot of credit for this they made 20 free throws in a row at one point and we're 25 and 28 from the stripe and

Neil (07:29.053)
Yeah, I mean...

Nick (07:32.014)
They made 20 in a row until Gale missed those two to really give them a chance.

Neil (07:36.01)
No, credit to them. Michigan's a physical team. They got to the line and they made their way with 25 and 28. They outscored UConn. This is a big stat in the game. They outscored UConn by 13 from the free throw line. I mean, you cut that in half and it's a tie game. So, I mean, that's a big number. 25 and 28 and UConn was 12 and 16. So, they shot 12 more and they made 13 more. So, that's just Michigan being, that's their brand of basketball. They're a physical team. They got to the line and that helped them win it.

Nick (08:07.245)
Yeah, and I talked about how they limited them to 55 possessions. what, Michigan has three losses this year. That loss to Duke, in that game they were limited to 62 possessions. And that loss to Purdue, they were limited to 63. So here they're limited to even fewer possessions and figure out a way to win. Now, if UConn shoots it a little better, maybe it's a different story. But I I think Michigan's defense deserves a lot of credit for that too.

Neil (08:34.866)
Absolutely.

Nick (08:38.317)
The game on Saturday, like we had just talked about how this was going to be the game of the century.

Neil (08:46.185)
It was not that it was not that

Nick (08:51.013)
Dude five minutes in and it's just It's like they're blocking every shot. They're just getting layups. They're dogs like just put it on them They were up 77 to 47 with 1031 to go. They were up 30 points in that

Neil (08:53.587)
Yeah.

Neil (09:07.911)
against Arizona, a team that's lost twice all year and has been number one in the country for the majority of the time.

Nick (09:13.387)
that like I said last week could easily be undefeated. They could have won both those games they've lost. They were right there. And just a nothing game. game before that was Illinois made a run late, got it to four, thought maybe they'd have a chance and then off the offensive rebound, which whenever there's offensive rebound, it gets kicked out for a three. I don't care how deep it is.

More than likely it's going in and Braylon Mullins who hit the game winner in the game before knocked down a big deep three to extend that lead to seven. But the games, I don't know, there was so much hype for this Final Four.

And clearly the Arizona Michigan game did not live up to the hype. It was just ass kicking. And I mean, really both of the other two games got it to where it was for, but the outcome was never really in doubt in either one.

Neil (10:16.074)
No, UConn controlled that game against Illinois. I mean, they were up most of the way. And I mean, I even think they might have been up, 10, 11 at some point. And Illinois came calling back. I mean, UConn controlled that game. It was not, there was never a point where I was like, Illinois is going to pull this off.

Nick (10:36.151)
Well, I punched that money line when it was they were down 14. So I was I was feeling pretty good there for a second should have cashed out didn't so I win nothing. But I just wanted a good game. just wanted a good game. The I do want to talk about this.

Neil (10:40.426)
14.

Nick (10:59.531)
The Halftime Show. Why are we waiting 50 minutes to play the second game? And why?

Neil (11:02.058)
Yeah

Neil (11:07.626)
Cause we had to listen to the chain smokers Nick, we get the chain smokers, get them on there.

Nick (11:11.117)
And look, I'm going to quote my dude Scott Van Pelt who tweeted this during halftime. Who asked for this?

Neil (11:21.022)
This is the first time they've done this, right? I can't remember another time they've done this.

Nick (11:25.537)
Well, I just don't understand. don't know who are they trying? Who is this for? Who is this for?

Neil (11:34.25)
students over there? I don't know. I don't know.

Nick (11:37.293)
Because nobody's tuning in at halftime just as a chain smokers fan and only watching halftime. The entire halftime.

Neil (11:43.946)
There's one Chainsmoker fan that tuned in. At least one.

Nick (11:50.219)
What are you talking about in the world? I'm sure there's multiple Chainsmokers fans, but-

Neil (11:52.651)
Yeah. I think that they tuned in just for half time. They didn't watch the game. They're like the chain smokers are.

Nick (11:58.958)
Do you think they didn't watch the game? There's people that exist that didn't watch the game.

Neil (12:02.122)
I'm gonna say there's at least one person that did that.

Nick (12:08.141)
What about the people at the venue? Like, at Lucas Oil? Are they excited about this?

Neil (12:08.65)
Might be related to the chain smokers, but.

Neil (12:14.41)
I don't know, has there been any kind of, has anybody that was there, have they come out and voiced their opinions on it? It looked awkward, it just looked awkward to me, I don't

Nick (12:22.501)
I just... Look, it makes more sense in venue than it does TV. like the whole time I look up to the clock at one time and we're 40 minutes till 10 and I'm like, what is happening?

And I just don't understand. I think we're trying too hard sometimes.

Neil (12:45.908)
Like the teams were warming up as the chain smokers were in concert, right?

Nick (12:50.753)
I don't think so. I don't think they were out there. No.

Neil (12:52.248)
they weren't even on the court? Okay.

Nick (12:57.31)
Look, this is another thing to dusty may in the first half as far as I know is one of the first head coaches to actually be out there in media row like scout

And look, if he said that he wanted to soak it in, and I get that, and he wanted to see the other two teams in person, and I get that as well, it doesn't happen very often, which is kind of surprising to me. Normally they send their assistants out if they're gonna go out at all. But maybe he also was one of the few people that knew that there's gonna be a 50 minute time in between games and I'll have plenty of time to talk to my guys.

Neil (13:33.908)
Thanks for watching.

Neil (13:39.53)
Maybe he hung around for the first couple minutes of the Chainsmokers. Is he a Chainsmoker fan? Is he old dusty? I mean, do you even know a Chainsmoker song?

Nick (13:43.821)
I don't know.

I do not. Maybe if I heard it, I would know it. But I can't sit here and tell you the name of the song.

Neil (13:49.342)
Yeah, I think you're right. couldn't either.

Nick (13:54.702)
And look, I'm still in a really good media guys, Scott Van Pelt, I'm still in what he said too on this one. But nobody goes to a chain smokers concert and in the middle of it expects to see a dunk contest or a three point contest out of nowhere. And to me, it's a perfect analogy because it makes no sense.

Neil (14:21.354)
I mean, I guess they're trying to be like the Super Bowl. And they're trying to go the Super Bowl route. It's halftime of basically the Final Four. And we're going to have a concert. And I just don't think it landed the way that they thought or hoped that it would.

Nick (14:35.797)
You also are 15 minutes in between games. And you've got, what's the old Saturday Night Live guy that pretends like he's James Naismith on the commercials? He's out there for a segment on TBS for a good five, 10 minutes.

Neil (14:45.514)
I mean we didn't have the audio on because we were at Manhattan Project but that just looked awkward. That just looked awkward. I don't know.

Nick (14:55.809)
But he's on TV forever.

Nick (15:02.219)
Look, it's the best tournament in the world and we're gonna screw it up by adding more teams. But it doesn't mean it's perfect. There's things we could change about it to make it a little better. And waiting 50 minutes in between games on Saturday when it's the most anticipated game of the year is one of them. And I don't know, it just resonated with the fact that I just remember looking up at that TV thinking that the game's gonna get ready to start and there's 40 minutes to go.

And I'm just like, what is happening? Cuz we're used to 2025. Game's over, get those teams out there, let them warm up and let's tip it in 20, 25 minutes.

Neil (15:35.604)
Well, the chain smokers con.

The change will...

Neil (15:44.33)
The Chainsmokers concert provided a little more entertainment than that game 2 did.

Nick (15:49.697)
Are you sure about that?

Neil (15:51.56)
Yeah, 30 point beat down, not interesting.

Nick (15:57.102)
Did you stay up to watch the one shining moment?

Neil (16:01.074)
No, did not. I was driving home from Bone's house at that time. And I never did go back. I never did go back to look at it. One shiny moment, I get it. It's nostalgia and it's part of the tournament and everybody looks forward to it. I'm not that guy. It doesn't mean anything to me unless my team wins a title. I'm gonna sit there and watch it for like a...

Nick (16:04.087)
See ya ahead.

Well, I mean, you were probably home by the time one shining moment ran.

Nick (16:13.517)
because it didn't run until midnight.

Neil (16:29.514)
2 second clip of my favorite team that lost in the second round like don't

Nick (16:34.413)
don't remember if they showed the cards.

Neil (16:36.756)
They might not even have been in there. So to me, it doesn't even really matter.

Nick (16:40.353)
But I did stay up and watch it. It's just kind of a tradition. Kind of puts a bow on the whole tournament. Listening to Luther sing one shining moment. Yeah.

Neil (16:50.344)
I mean you can listen to Luther sing in Shining Moment anytime that you want through Apple Music.

Nick (16:53.815)
Yeah, but it's different. I know I can do that, but on a random Wednesday in June, I'm not going to start bumping one shining moment. That doesn't make a lot of sense. When you come over and have a pool party, not putting one shining moment on the loudspeaker. When we're tailgating for the Bengals game, I'm not putting one shining moment on. There's very few moments where you listen to one shining moment and that's the one or the main one.

Neil (17:18.768)
It is the main one. But I don't know, it's not that important unless my team wins the title.

Nick (17:28.417)
Best moments of the tournament?

Neil (17:32.852)
I mean, it's gotta be the mulling shot over Duke. It's gotta be the number one moment of the tournament to get them to the final four and completing that comeback. mean, I think that's head and shoulders above any other moment, but what do you think?

Nick (17:32.919)
Wood Sticks out.

Nick (17:47.597)
Yeah, I mean that is the moment of the tournament. You've also got high points going over Wisconsin. The Nebraska Vanderbilt game where.

Neil (17:51.88)
Yeah. Yeah.

I thought you were going to fill out the Miami Redhawks with their their win in the tournament since you cried about getting them in the tournament all year long. They finally game prove themselves.

Nick (18:02.431)
Now that's not it. It was cool that they won a game. Cool that they won a game. I don't think still don't think SMU is very good and deserved probably not to be there either. But that's why we've talked about this. This tournament does not need to expanded and it looks like it's going to happen. Looks like it's going to be what expanded by 12 more teams, which is just ridiculous. The Kentucky game, the the away shot in the first round was pretty amazing.

Neil (18:29.567)
mean are those really the only two buzzer beaters that always shot in Mullins? Is there another buzzer beater in there that we're forgetting about?

Nick (18:36.033)
The, well, no, it a buzzer beater. The Iowa game against Florida was right there.

Neil (18:41.653)
Yeah, that was close. Then had the opening game of tournament. TCU Ohio State was a shot with what? couple seconds left. I put this up there. The St. John's layup. That's a buzzer beater. Layup over Kansas.

Nick (18:57.165)
Probably that wasn't, that, yep, yep. And that game deserves to be on the list too.

Neil (18:58.379)
That was a blizzard beater, yeah.

Neil (19:03.605)
That does deserve a bill, that was a great game. Yes.

Nick (19:06.349)
But you know, before we move on and we're going to talk a little bit about the women's Final Four too. Is there anything, and I'm putting you on the spot because I didn't tell you we going to ask this and I just kind of thought about it over my head, but is there anything you changed about the tournament after watching it? Like kind of sticks out? Because I've, and I can go first because I've got a clear one.

Neil (19:26.825)
Okay, I'm saying like nothing comes to mind, but

Nick (19:29.549)
I just think we can stagger some of these games better. Like the Sweet 16, where you could stagger those four games better than we do.

Neil (19:39.243)
So you want to put more games early instead of stacking them late.

Nick (19:44.013)
Well, right now, the way they do it, they tip it like seven and 720. So those games are pretty much on top of each other. If you remember the second game that started, it was Thursday or Friday, that game actually finished before the first game. So the games are pretty closely, there's a chance that they're ending at about the same time.

Neil (20:04.164)
So you want, what do you want, do you want like on that Thursday to have the first game start at like five?

Nick (20:10.262)
I think you could do 6, 7, 8, 9?

Then like and then you've got at least an hour and but like I want to watch the endings of all these games that I can't and And also like this the Saturday Sunday of the first round where we've got one region that's all by itself The 12 and the in the 230 games Why are we doing that every year and then all of sudden we've got four games at the same time in that late window?

Neil (20:23.755)
So 670.

Neil (20:40.541)
Yeah, so you're talking about that Saturday, Sunday second round when there's eight games. Instead of doing one at noon, one at 2.30, and then you've got six games that are stuffed into a four hour window, you want double them up early?

Nick (20:43.872)
Yeah, that too.

Nick (20:54.122)
Yeah, and I think the women did a really good job of that on the ESPN side of just kind of stacking them. And I get it, it's a little easier because in the first and second round on the women's side, you're playing at all, I mean, not all different venues, but you have a lot more venues. So the fact that you have fewer venues in the men's side makes it a little harder, but I think you can still stagger these games more. So we've got an opportunity to watch. And look, it's just because I want to watch more games.

And I want to be able to watch and look, I can have three TVs, I can have four TVs, but being focused solely on one game that's finishing, when you get like first round, you can't do that. Like there's no way around it. And that's what makes it awesome that there's four games going on at one time. But once you get to the second round, I think they can do a better job of staggering these games and allowing you to watch more.

Neil (21:48.747)
Yeah, I would agree with that. mean, is it a necessary change? No, but... It is tricky.

Nick (21:53.803)
I'm nitpicking, but they did the best, it's the best event in sports. And, but still the best things can get better. And instead we're going to make it worse, but.

Nick (22:07.766)
Can you think of anything else?

Neil (22:10.815)
Nothing that pops in my mind, I mean, it's a really good tournament. I think they do a good job with it. I mean, we've talked about not expanding. That's one thing I would not do. That's one thing I would not change. But other than that, no. I I like that they still do the four regions, unlike the women that do the two.

Nick (22:32.14)
That's just a, that's a cost thing.

Neil (22:33.971)
It is a cost thing. Yeah, and an attendance thing and whatever else, but...

Nick (22:38.725)
I mean, ideally your Final Four is not at a football venue, but it's never going.

Neil (22:43.081)
I mean, some of those seats, you see some of the pictures of those seats.

Nick (22:45.996)
It's bad for the fans, but they show up and it's bad

Neil (22:49.183)
But they pay the money to do it. Like they show up, they buy the ticket. If they buy the ticket, sell it to them.

Nick (22:53.916)
and that's why it'll never change because they're filling those football stadiums and from the top you can't see anything. But I think the basketballs, I don't know this for a fact, but from my eye test, I think the basketball is a little worse.

Neil (23:01.163)
Mm-hmm.

Nick (23:10.508)
Like it's just, it's such a cavernous venue. It's just the, backdrop is just never ending. And dude, that's another Dusty Bay thing. Took them out to the, to the big house and brought a goal in the big house and they're just shooting hoops in the big house. Like I give him credit for that. But yeah, those are the, and look, I know the second one's not going to change, but I, I do wish that we could play it in basketball venues, but when you're getting 70, 80, 90,000 people.

Neil (23:23.957)
Yeah, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I did too.

Neil (23:41.247)
Yeah, that's not shit.

Nick (23:41.536)
again going backwards and Michigan before I got one more thing before we go all five starters didn't start their career at Michigan how you like

Neil (23:52.412)
transfers. Which they say, mean it is the first time in history that's happened but you know that's obviously gonna be the case because transfers are way more prevalent now than they ever have been. But I mean it just proves that you know if you have a bad year like if your team didn't do well or didn't meet expectations this year you can start over and win a title the very next year. You just got to bring in the right guys. So it gives you hope.

Nick (24:18.528)
Yeah, it's just, we'll see who, I mean, I would imagine Kado comes back, McKinney, I would imagine they both come back. You never know in this era what could happen, but it's just, it's where we are right now.

Neil (24:19.531)
Gives you hope.

Neil (24:33.385)
Mara, Mara, Mara, Mara comes back, he's only a junior, right?

Nick (24:37.548)
I think after his performance in the Final Four, I he's going to get drafted.

Neil (24:41.737)
He gets drafted?

Nick (24:47.404)
But it's just the era we're in. there's some unfortunate things about it. You don't get to watch players go from freshmen to seniors. I mean, everybody talks about how much Elliott Cadell struggled in his first year at North Carolina and how much he grew in his second year at UConn, right?

Neil (25:11.531)
Mm-hmm.

Nick (25:12.958)
Who's to say he doesn't do the same damn thing if he stays at UNC? Like we don't wait around to see. Like most freshmen, when they become sophomores, become better players. And like we act like if he would have stayed at UNC, he would have not progressed.

Neil (25:24.203)
That's usually how that works.

Neil (25:33.773)
It's all about coaching in some of those situations too. Like, I don't know, to me, Dusty Maeve, probably a better developer of talent than maybe Hubert Davis was, maybe it's the system. Maybe, I mean, it's all about the system as well and how they use you and I don't know. I think he would have been fine at North Carolina, but he goes to Michigan, gets his chance to shine and walks out with the most outstanding player of the entire tournament.

Nick (25:44.62)
Thank you.

Nick (26:01.292)
Yeah, the actual getting hurt playing 14 minutes in the game on Saturday and you don't know if he's gonna play, he's dealing with the ankle and a knee. First half, he looks like he's barely getting them down the court, does his interview with Tracy Wolff, I feel awful. I don't know if I've ever heard the honesty in an interview like that. He still plays 35, 36 minutes, goes for double figures.

Neil (26:13.932)
You did not look good.

Nick (26:28.15)
So good on him, but when he's not at full strength, you need somebody else to step up and Cadeau did that. And I thought McKinney was huge in moments too, man.

Neil (26:33.718)
Yes. Yeah.

Nick (26:41.228)
Well, I guess that puts a bow on the 2026 men's tournament. On the women's side, you had for the second time and not last year, but in the last couple, I know it was 2018, you had all four number ones. Last year we had all four number ones on the men's side.

The second game, UCLA beats Texas. It's 20 to 17 and a half. And they ended up winning 51 to 44. And I've talked to you about this off the show. There's a lot of positive momentum for women's basketball. This tournament, I don't feel like really helped it. The games were just not that great. Especially after you got out of the first and second round.

Neil (27:06.729)
Ugh.

Neil (27:24.012)
Oh, was I was. No, I was looking forward to this final four. I thought this final four was going to be absolutely outstanding. You know these four teams that made it all one seats are more head and shoulders better than everybody in the country all year long. I thought it was going to be competitive. I thought it was going to be, you know, scoring up in the in the 70s and whatnot. And yeah, you get a 5144 snooze Fest in that UCLA Texas game. You got.

Nick (27:38.282)
That's it.

Nick (27:50.54)
20 to 17 and a half. Like how many people are checking that to make sure that the score bug is right?

Neil (27:55.693)
I mean you got Madison Booker from Texas shooting three for 23 for the game. Thank God bless. Three for 23. Rory Harmon, the stud guard from Texas, only scores eight points. She's four of 11 from the field and it's just... Golly. Yeah, that's, it's just a bad, it's just, it was bad. It was real bad.

Nick (28:15.828)
And then you got Gino earlier in the tournament complaining about how the shooting was so bad in these venues that aren't really basketball venues. Now they're not playing football venues, but I think the venue in Fort Worth was a rodeo venue, so it's not really a basketball venue. They've got new basketball goals, so he's already complaining about that. They get to their 18th Final Four in the last 19 years. They're undefeated. Their smallest margin of victory all year was three points against Michigan, their second smallest.

Neil (28:30.783)
It was rodeo.

Nick (28:45.642)
Margin of victory was 13 points against Louisville in their season opener. That was their second smallest win, 13 points. And you get the Don Staley, you get the Gino matchup in the Final Four, rematch of last year's National Championship where UConn really put it on them in Paige Becker's finale. And dude, South Carolina just bullied UConn and-

Neil (29:11.585)
Mm-hmm.

Nick (29:13.088)
Their physicality would not allow them to get into their offense. Gino obviously was frustrated. You could tell that from his interview with Holly Rowe at the end of the third quarter. Didn't feel like South Carolina was getting fouls called for how physical they were being. UConn finishes with 48 points. Their lowest prior to that was 63, which was in the tournament as well against North Carolina. And then we get...

the post game handshake or whatever it was with Gino and Don Staley and.

We still don't know exactly what was said, we think it was something about the handshake at the beginning of the game where he was waiting for Dawn Staley and she never showed up.

Neil (29:56.599)
He was complaining about waiting, like he was standing there waiting for it and waiting for it and it took her too long to come shake his hand pregame and how that was a breach of etiquette on her part which is just something really stupid to complain about if you're Gino.

Nick (30:13.548)
There's video of them.

shaking hands before the game. I don't know when it was. Look, in beginning games, a lot of times you have when there's 10, 15 on the pregame clock, you see the coaches kind of meet up and chat. And then after lineups, they do it again. And I think this is the one that he was talking about didn't really happen after lineups. But it's when you never lose, when you're undefeated.

Neil (30:19.405)
Yes, absolutely.

Nick (30:45.676)
When you've been to 18 and 19 Final Fours.

And you finally lose a game and this is how you react. I don't care what you say. We win with class, we lose with class. We do it with dignity. Dude, you were, I don't know what happened, but you lost your cool. And it was not a great look for Gino on that, on Friday night.

Neil (31:05.761)
No, I mean the last few weeks has not been a good look for Gino. mean him whining and complaining about basking for a while. I'm not fine with that. No, like that's just like that's stupid and having to get up and go to a press conference and all that like you whined and complained the week before. Then you whined and complained in your interview in the in-game interview with Holly about how if he talked to the officials the way that Don Staley was talking to officials he'd be thrown out and how they ripped my player's jersey even though that was false, she ripped her own jersey.

Nick (31:10.56)
I was fine with that.

Neil (31:35.309)
And then...

Nick (31:35.593)
Another point another great point. He never said that like he never acknowledged that Like yes, but she ripped her own jersey. He never acknowledged it

Neil (31:45.4)
Yeah, correct. You never did acknowledge that. No. And then you go into the post-game handshake line where he wants to act like a complete jackass and completely uncalled for, you know. Like your team got beat. You played like crap. It sucks your season came to an end. Nobody was expecting this, but just shake hands and go back to the locker and like be mad at your own team. Don't be mad at the other team.

Nick (32:09.612)
Do you, so obviously he's a male coach, Don Sayles is a female coach. Three female officials in that game on Friday.

I, there's a part of me in the back of my mind that is like that played a role in his frustration. And I'm not saying it's warranted because it's not the way he acted is not warranted. But I think in the back of his mind that played a role and just being around the game.

I'm not saying I can see it, but I don't.

Neil (32:39.629)
Do you think it played a part in way that the game was officiated? Were they more biased or darker? So you think in a matchup of a male coach and a female coach, there should be at least one male official? OK.

Nick (32:43.98)
I don't think it's impossible for it not to.

Nick (32:53.664)
No, I don't. I'm not saying that. But I do think sometimes male coaches look at that.

Neil (33:02.669)
I mean, it's like... I'm not saying...

Nick (33:03.1)
And the bottom line is you got bullied and you got your ass beat and you couldn't score a bucket. And every time you made a run, they answered and they were the better team by a lot.

Neil (33:16.013)
And then after the altercation, a lot of lip reading was going on on what Don Staley was saying. It appeared to say that I'd kick Gino's ass. I'll beat Gino's ass.

Nick (33:21.42)
Thanks.

I'll beat, I'll beat Dino's ass. I'll beat Dino's ass several times. And dude, I'll give her credit. ain't, I mean, she ain't going back down. And I, I think that's another part of this whole thing too is it's still Yukon here maybe, but South Carolina is, getting closer with what she's done.

Neil (33:42.702)
As much of a jackass as much as a jackass the Gino was and how uncalled for that whole thing was It spiced it up man. It's it's it's the spiciness of a boring Final Four people were talking about it It adds another rivalry to this thing. So when I mean these two teams play frequently I mean you can't plays all the top teams almost every single year. So these things Know they're gonna see each other probably next year and this is good. I mean it's

Nick (34:02.805)
Yeah, and they'll both be in the Final Four again next year, probably.

Neil (34:11.307)
It's bad for the game of his look of it all, but it gets people talking. There's buzz around it, so people are gonna pay attention to this next year.

Nick (34:20.361)
Look, and he's not somebody to shy away from speaking his mind. And we've seen that his whole career, but the way he acted after the game on Friday was new. That's not something that we've seen before. And you do wonder, like you said, like this tournament, once you got to the sweet 16 and beyond, there weren't a ton of great games. There wasn't a lot of great shooting. The product, unfortunately was not as good as it could have been. And was there some strategy into what he's doing?

Neil (34:29.589)
It was. It was,

Nick (34:51.999)
potentially trying to add some controversy to get people talking about it.

Neil (34:59.195)
That's a stretch,

Nick (35:00.627)
I think it is, but...

Neil (35:03.191)
We'll see, I don't know. But, I how many more years do you Gino's got left?

Nick (35:07.583)
He don't look like he's going anywhere.

Nick (35:12.735)
Don't look like it. But I just it's really when you get to the title game and you hope it's going to be a good game, UCLA, South Carolina and.

It's not the UCLA wins 79 to 51. They were up 11 after one quarter 13 at the half and then they outscored South Carolina 25 to 9 in the third to put it away. UCLA's first ever title. Corey Close's first ever title. Obviously they've got six seniors. Kiki Rice and Gabriella Hockes were there all four years, which is something we've talked about. You don't see very often anymore. So then to have that on national championship team is pretty cool.

Lauren Betts has been was there three years after leaving Stanford And then Dugalic who comes off the bench has been there four since leaving, Oregon so they've got four players that have been there at least three years and Lost one game all season. There's somebody that I thought do what? Six seniors overall they had two transfers that came in this year that were senior But Hawkeyes in them

Neil (36:13.646)
16 years?

Nick (36:25.973)
final was just unbelievable. And but good just they I've talked about them a little bit on the show because after coach walls was talking about how ESPN can be lazy with the teams they cover and it's how it's always Yukon it's always South Carolina that UCLA probably deserved a little more coverage and they did it the hard way.

Neil (36:50.862)
Mm-hmm.

Neil (36:54.67)
I mean, it's, Walls is right. I mean, they do deserve some more coverage. It's a little harder since they're a West Coast team and you know, their games aren't, they're maybe playing at 10 o'clock Eastern time most of the time and the East Coast doesn't really know much about them. But they deserve to be talked more because we had a dominant.

Nick (37:09.811)
Well, tell that to A.S. about Juju Watkins' coverage last year at USC.

Neil (37:14.104)
That's true.

Nick (37:15.871)
because you tell me Lauren Betts doesn't deserve the coverage that Juju got last year? Because she didn't get it. She didn't get it.

Neil (37:20.655)
Lord, Besson absolutely deserves the coverage. She did. She deserves it though. You're right.

Nick (37:27.273)
I mean, how many people were just figuring out who Gabriel Hacquez is on Friday and Sunday?

Neil (37:33.794)
Most of America. Most of America.

Nick (37:36.309)
I mean, her got a brother that also played for UCLA that played in a title game. Yeah. Final four. Yeah. They lost in the final four, but dudes putting up numbers for the heat in the league. That's a story. Like we should be hearing this stuff.

Neil (37:54.604)
I agree.

Nick (37:56.36)
And that's why he's right. I hear him talking at the end of the ACC tournament, I'm thinking UCLA. And UCLA did it the hard way. Congrats to their six seniors. Congrats to Corey Close.

Neil (38:12.632)
Good news for Corey Close, now the season's over, she can get little sleep. She seemed tired. She was tired. She had to get up early to do some medias. She was very tired. She gets a little sleep.

Nick (38:15.987)
Yes, you can, but she's very tired. She's very tired. Now, don't know if you... Yep. So you got a little work to do to fill out that roster now.

Neil (38:28.334)
She does. She's got a lot of spots to fill.

Nick (38:30.831)
As does every other coach in America. As. It's portal season and on the men's side per Jeff Goodman, said what 1800 players in the portal.

Neil (38:34.05)
Yup. It's Portal Season. Portal Season.

Neil (38:43.054)
Oh yeah, let's look at the stats here. This was as of about an hour ago. 1,850 Division 1 men's players have hit the portal. And that is basically the percentage of scholarship players that have eligibility left. That's 49 % of all scholarship players that still have eligibility remaining. 49 % of the players are in the portal,

Nick (39:09.227)
On the women's side the numbers I don't have the percentage but on the women's side it's a thousand around a thousand It's it's more normal for you your players to go in the portal than for them not to I feel like at this point

Neil (39:24.694)
And also, don't, if I was a player, I'd do the same thing. I would see what my value is on the market and you just go back to the place you came from if you want to. And there are players that withdraw their names from the portal and go back to the school, but it doesn't happen often, but it's an option. I mean,

Nick (39:38.633)
That doesn't happen very often.

Nick (39:43.145)
Like it happened with Isaac Brown at UofL in football. But I feel like that was really rare.

Neil (39:45.816)
Yeah. Yeah.

Neil (39:50.863)
I mean, didn't O.A. do it for Kentucky last year? He tested the draft waters and was maybe in the portal. I mean, he was maybe in the portal, not in the portal. I don't know. But if you're a kid and you're looking for, I mean, it's all about the money now. So you might as well get in the open market, have your agent feel it out, see what you're worth. And if you don't like what you're hearing, then just go back to the school you came from.

Nick (39:54.891)
But the test of the draft waters and coming back, I think, is different. That's not the same thing.

Nick (40:15.527)
or have some damn loyalty to your program and be proud of your school that you play for.

Neil (40:18.702)
Nobody's saying you have a policy, go back if you want to.

Nick (40:22.987)
Like it ain't always about chasing a damn dollar. The grass ain't always greener. Like can we have some loyalty in college hoops?

Neil (40:30.877)
What's the Jeff Walls quote he always says? Sometimes you think you can spurt a lot in the equation. He's 100 % right. It's one of my favorite quotes of his.

Nick (40:33.619)
Yeah, because it's fertilized with shit. Yeah, with bullshit. And he's right.

I'm, I did it. I'm old school and it's not going to change until the rules change, but

Neil (40:53.08)
No, it sucks for the fans, it sucks for the schools, it sucks for the fans, but kids are doing what they gotta do. It's not changing, it's gonna get worse probably.

Nick (41:03.371)
Nebraska dude's a starter Berkay Bayou Tujel started all every game this year averaged six and a half points five five point six rebounds was it's his second year there where did he start started at UCLA his first year so he's a junior after their great season they win their first ever NCAA tournament game they get to their sweet 16 dudes getting a tattoo to commemorate the season

Neil (41:30.382)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (41:33.419)
27 and 8. The next day, deuces, I'm going to the portal.

Neil (41:40.876)
Well, I mean, is that because he wanted to go to the pool or did he have a conversation with Fred Hoyberg and Hoyberg was like, hey, we're looking at bringing in a guy at your position that maybe can give us more than what you gave us.

Nick (41:44.309)
because he had a pad tattoo.

Nick (41:54.858)
And look, and I think that's a fair point. It's not always on the player side. I think that is an absolute fair point.

Neil (42:00.688)
Give me his stats again, what'd say?

Nick (42:03.371)
E average 6 and 5. 6 and a half and 5 and a half.

Neil (42:05.067)
Exactly it as a starter. Maybe you're looking for a little more than that. So hoibergs maybe like we're gonna bring in a guy that Might help us a little more than six points at five rebounds and then he's might be like, alright coach I respect that I'm gonna go look for an opportunity where I can play start again So maybe that's I mean, we don't know the story that to me. That's very plausible

Nick (42:26.411)
I don't know the story and maybe that is what happened but it's still just you get a tattoo commemorating your season and then a day later you're like thanks but I'm gonna be playing for somebody else next year.

Neil (42:34.615)
It's still weird. Well speaking of that, whoa!

Neil (42:45.635)
Well, Kani Rus, who's in the portal for Louisville, he's got that leg tattoo that spells out C-A-R-D-S and it has all the different things for each letter of the program standards and all that. Well, he's gonna go get that covered up now? He gonna go play for another ACCC? Yeah.

Nick (43:00.299)
Well, like just say, don't get your girlfriend's name tatted on you because when you break up, what are you gonna do? Like, what are you gonna turn that card in now to, Kaniyia Rooks?

Neil (43:10.201)
Go find another girlfriend with the same names, which you gotta do.

Nick (43:14.923)
Yeah, that's easier said than done. So at limits, can I roost options next year? He can go play, he can go to ball, well, he's got to take the S off if he goes to Stanford.

Neil (43:21.037)
Ball State and State.

That's a lot easier to do than taking the whole tattoo off.

Nick (43:29.243)
Or he could try to go to the draft to the Arizona Cardinals or the St. Louis Cardinals. Other than that, I don't know what he's going to do next year.

Neil (43:37.977)
Yeah, no, it's crazy.

Nick (43:41.393)
And you had said they're looking to do something with to give you five years of eligibility if if you're

Neil (43:48.548)
Yeah, yeah, the NCAA came out today, I saw this today. They're proposing an eligibility rule change that I guess will be voted on in the near future that will take place and will go into effect in the fall of 2026. So starting this fall, basically five years of eligibility in five years. So five years from your 19th birthday or the year that you graduate high school, you have five years of eligibility. There are no more red shirts, no medical red shirts.

No waivers, no nothing. You've got five years to figure this out. You can play all five years. If you get hurt, you still have four more years. So, kind of trying to delimit more, get this thing standardized and it eliminates bringing back 26 year old G League players that have been out of college for five years, which is just stupid in the first place. I mean, this does officially eliminate that portion of that.

Nick (44:37.991)
Which what we need a rule to eliminate that is insane

Neil (44:46.063)
I don't know, they're just trying to make it more standardized and you're not denying some guys here and approving some guys here and it's just all, it's pretty clear cut. I'm in favor of it.

Nick (44:57.055)
Well, there's nothing to not be in favor. I don't know what it accomplishes.

Neil (45:01.593)
You're just giving guys an extra year. So usually you got four years or you play four years, you gotta move on. Now you can play a total, you can play all five years. So seniors can now come back. mean, really it kind of hurts the freshmen, like the incoming freshmen. Like you're gonna limit opportunities of high school kids at this one.

Nick (45:12.043)
And that's fine.

Nick (45:17.843)
But it's like coaches shouldn't be red shirt and players for the last couple of years knowing that they can go wherever they want because I don't know the percentage but I guarantee you the percentage of red shirt players and them leaving the program is damn high. And to me that's all this kind of does is says there's no point in red shirt because you ain't going to keep people from getting hurt like there's nothing you can do about that. I would like to see some kind of incentive.

to where you're rewarded for being somewhere for four years. If you're at the same school for four years, then you get a fifth year to give somebody an incentive to say somewhere. I would like to see.

Neil (45:59.28)
What if your coach leaves? What if, you know...

Nick (46:02.377)
Well, there's gonna be stuff like that that allows you to leave.

Neil (46:06.65)
See then you're just going back into the whole, need to get a waiver, I need to get this for this to happen.

Nick (46:11.339)
But at least then you've got rules. At least with waivers, you've got some rules. We're seeing too many kids that are playing five years at five different schools. And I don't know what good it does to anybody.

Neil (46:24.442)
Why does that bother you?

Nick (46:30.665)
What good does that do anybody? That student athlete, are they really even a student athlete?

Neil (46:32.485)
What does it hurt?

Neil (46:38.638)
No, we know this, Let's stop pretending like this is old days. Let's stop pretending like this is the old days, where student athletes are there, we're here for school. Who was the Ohio State quarterback that said, I'm not here to play school? These kids aren't here to play school. They're here to play ball, they're here to get paid, and they're here to get, if you get a degree, that's a bonus. lot of kids don't care about that, because they're just trying to go play professionally. Whether that's in the NFL, the NBA.

Nick (46:40.555)
None of the fans have loyalty to them.

Neil (47:06.454)
or overseas somewhere and get a contract in Turkey or Russia to play basketball. They're here to play ball and get that pro contract.

Nick (47:16.139)
Yeah, I mean, I just, if you could have a one transfer rule, another net, you got to sit out and then you keep this five and five, then that gives you incentive not to transfer because if you do transfer a second time, then you have to sit out a year. I think that's a decent, that would be a decent addition to these rules to try to limit a little bit. Like I, I understand the other side of the argument. Coaches can leave whenever they want, no matter what their contract is. And that's true.

but we're not seeing coaches coach five places in five years.

And just to bring some consistency to it. didn't look and I know that they're not, it's not all about school, but still a part of it. You could at least pretend that it matters. And when it's five and five, doesn't benefit the student athlete. Doesn't benefit the fan base. The only way you're remembered is if you go and do something great that fifth year.

Neil (47:53.88)
I would agree. I'm on your side on this. I would, yes.

Nick (48:17.267)
or your final year because the other four places you left, matter how good you are, hate you and will hate you forever for the most part. And so the only chance you have to be remembered at a school is having a fifth year or a senior year at your new program where you are great individually and your team has great success.

Neil (48:25.316)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (48:41.787)
And I don't know.

The system, as they argued for good 10 minutes on game day, I don't believe it's sustainable. It's too expensive. Like in the pro leagues, you spend money on players and you get revenue back.

Neil (48:55.374)
not it is not way too

Neil (49:02.917)
Yes.

Nick (49:04.063)
These donors aren't getting that revenue back that are paying for the most of these players.

Neil (49:12.952)
Well, lot of these universities are going, they're in debt already, just trying to keep up to get a competitive roster.

Nick (49:19.827)
Yeah, and you're going to start seeing the smaller sports disappear because more money is going to have to go to football and primarily men's basketball, but women's basketball as well. And then you're going to start seeing other sports disappear. But I mean, I will say for the most part, the TV ratings are as good as they've ever been. The product is great.

Neil (49:47.291)
But the problem is, and this is what's different from the pro leagues, is the pro leagues, you're under one TV contract. The revenue splits equal amongst all 32 league teams. Same with baseball or football or whatever. When you've got the SEC and the Big Ten making double what the Big 12 and the ACC are making in media rights revenue, then we start having an issue. And the ACC's locked into their media rights until 2036 that they can't get out of.

So they can't even renegotiate until then. So, like the gap, the gap's too big.

Nick (50:22.965)
And that's why we just saw the Big Ten sweep men's basketball, women's basketball and football for the first time it's been done since 07 when the SEC did it.

Neil (50:28.528)
Yeah. I would like, the SEC and the Big Ten are gonna fight this, but I would like to a, NCAA Division I, especially maybe the Power Four, Power Five teams, all under one meteorites deal. Like, they make a deal with ESPN and NBC and CBS, just like the NFL does, with Fox and CBS and ESPN and Amazon and YouTube and whoever else. They're all under the same meteorites deal. Put these conferences under the same meteorites deal. Let's distribute this evenly.

And let's get this back to at least a little bit of, you know, where some of these teams have a chance and we're not in monstrous debt.

Nick (51:05.365)
Well, and you're not even talking about the teams that aren't in Power 4. like, you talk about separating them even more. It's just, I still love watching it, but there's a lot of issues with it. It'll be interesting to see where it goes. I think there has to be some changes.

Neil (51:23.088)
There is.

Nick (51:30.389)
what those changes will be. Your idea is not a terrible idea, but just the big 10 and the SEC are never gonna be like, okay, we'll do that.

Neil (51:38.034)
Right, that's what you're gonna have to have some kind I mean It's not like Congress needs to get involved in sports But like you're gonna have to have some kind of Supreme Court rulings or Congressional you know something laws or whatever that come down to try to force these things through because No, these conferences aren't gonna agree on anything. They're all looking out

Nick (51:48.363)
Well...

Nick (52:01.324)
The problem is there was just no rules to begin with. And this is the result. look, there's a lot of things, the result ain't bad. I mean, the product's still good. It's just, you're probably gonna have a different players on your team every year.

Neil (52:22.693)
Well, Michigan did it and they won a championship. So if you're a fan of your team, you know, and your guys are transferring out, you might get somebody better. You might end up winning the championship. And guess what? You're going to be ecstatic.

Nick (52:26.329)
and

Nick (52:37.567)
You are, but if you also had Yaxle there for four years, it just had something. I mean, just facts.

Neil (52:46.254)
One year's better than none.

Nick (52:47.911)
especially if you bring on a chip.

Nick (52:54.175)
Are you ready for Hello Friends?

Neil (53:00.113)
Where's the music?

Nick (53:00.149)
Can you do the music? Can you do the music? Can you do it? Can you, I thought maybe you could just sing, maybe you could just hum it.

Neil (53:04.889)
I don't know how-

Nick (53:11.349)
Where is this week? Where is Masters week?

Neil (53:12.241)
Pull my tie

Neil (53:18.801)
on the sports calendar.

Nick (53:21.727)
Yeah, where does the Masters week rank on your sports calendar?

Neil (53:27.537)
It's definitely behind, well, I mean, it kind of runs right into NCAA tournament, but, know, the, yeah, I mean, that week of the first and second round NCAA tournament is the greatest week on the sports calendar. But it's up there. mean, it's up there with Super Bowl. And if my team's in the Super Bowl, then I would probably would put that ahead of the Masters. But if my team's not in the Super Bowl, I'd probably put Masters.

Nick (53:33.439)
which is pretty awesome.

Nick (53:53.547)
I think this is assuming your team's not in something.

Neil (53:56.761)
Yeah, I mean it's up there. I mean it's it's it's top top three

Neil (54:03.045)
For me, what about you?

Nick (54:05.611)
Might go I might go too and They're both right right there together now look if you Like the NFL playoffs as a whole You know would maybe like I'm not just gonna go Super Bowl but NFL playoffs as a whole And March Madness and Masters and then I mean you get one-offs like the Ryder Cups and

Neil (54:08.655)
Number two, that's Tussle Tustry.

Neil (54:21.265)
Yeah.

Nick (54:35.567)
Olympics which I don't they're not yearly events so I wouldn't really put them in this category but it's it's up there and before we start talking about the tournament I think we might do a quick little Masters draft the the food and beverage menu is one of the bigger it's it's a staple of the master so I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you twelve dollars

Neil (54:44.859)
Yeah.

Neil (54:52.741)
Okay.

Neil (54:58.097)
It's always fun.

always a classic.

Nick (55:05.643)
I'm going give you $12 and you can spend it on whatever you want.

Neil (55:08.944)
Okay.

Neil (55:12.495)
Okay.

Nick (55:13.117)
Egg salad sandwich pimento cheese sandwiches. They're a dollar fifty each or you get some barbecue or spicy a savory tomato pie or a Masters Club for three dollars You can get a crow's nest beer for Yeah, you trying to get that

Neil (55:24.337)
What's a tomato pie? Like a pizza? Is that a pizza? A tomato pie? that what they call pizza?

Nick (55:35.212)
You can get a crow's nest beer for six bucks a domestic beer for six bucks all the beer six bucks You get apple slices For a dollar fifty you can get cookies for two bucks. You can get Georgia pecan caramel popcorn for two bucks Georgia peach ice cream sandwich for three bucks. I know I just threw a lot of prices at you, but if you could spend 12 bucks, what do you what do you buy?

Neil (55:37.466)
Okay.

Neil (55:59.666)
Nope, I've already got it. I've already got it. Yup. 12 bucks, I've already got it. First of all, I'm getting a beer. What was the, the domestic? What was the other?

Nick (56:06.965)
So that's 12 months, that's six months. I thought maybe you just might go to Crow's Nest and call it a day.

Neil (56:12.913)
What's a crow's nest? I need to know what that is. All right, so I'm going specialty beer, six bucks. I'm going $3 on my barbecue sandwich, and I'm going $3 on my peach ice cream sandwich. That's my 12 bucks. That is my 12 bucks.

Nick (56:14.707)
It's their specialty beer.

Nick (56:28.977)
I think that the Georgia Beacon Caramel Popcorn is calling my name. I'm also getting a crow's nest because there's no way I'm not getting a beer. So now I've spent eight bucks. So basically there's not a $4 item and there's also not a $1 item.

Neil (56:33.934)
Okay.

Gotta get a beer, yeah.

Neil (56:41.745)
Are you gonna double up on like the egg salad and pimento cheese over there?

Nick (56:48.447)
I would never get an egg salad sandwich. I would eat a pimento cheese.

Nick (56:55.235)
I I would have to do I want what else could I get though? I could get one so I have four bucks to spend I could get I give me no cheese sandwich and then I could get like a Bag of chips or something

Neil (57:00.081)
Get you slice of tomato.

Neil (57:13.105)
So we're going beer, popcorn, pimento cheese, and some barbecue ruffles or something over there. Okay. Okay.

Nick (57:14.379)
But yeah, I can go to bank chips for $9.50.

Nick (57:22.987)
I gotta have that. popcorn. See, you're gonna have to eat that ice cream sandwich so fast and with the beer.

Neil (57:29.253)
Dude, would eat, you understand, would inhale that ice cream sandwich. A peach ice cream sandwich sounds fantastic.

Nick (57:36.107)
Was the barbecue sandwich a no-brainer?

Neil (57:38.799)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (57:41.193)
Roar. Did you see Rory's winning Masters dinner?

Neil (57:46.121)
I did take a look at it. It's been about a week since I saw it, so I've kind of forgotten what it was. But you want to let it down?

Nick (57:52.18)
rock shrimp tempura, yellowfin tuna carpaccio, wagyu fillet or seared salmon, and then sticky toffee pudding.

Neil (58:02.311)
Woo, wacky boy.

Nick (58:06.175)
Would you rather have that or Scotty's dinner last year? Which was cheeseburger sliders, Texas style chili, cowboy ribeye or blackened redfish, and then chocolate chip skillet cookie. Which one you taking?

Neil (58:14.834)
All right.

Neil (58:20.722)
Yeah, go ahead and give me Scotty's menu because I love Texas style chili. It's one of my top items of all time. I love Texas style chili. Give me a Texas steak. Okay.

Nick (58:28.317)
Alright, now Scottie's versus John Rahm's and I'm gonna say that John Rahm has very little chance. don't even know how to pronounce it. Basque? B-A-S-Q-U-E? Is that Basque?

Neil (58:44.838)
Yeah, I don't know what that is,

Nick (58:46.891)
Basque Bosque, don't know crab salad ribeye and then tapas y pizzo's I think you're you're taking Scotty

Neil (58:55.826)
Taking Scotty. Are you taking Scotty's over Rory's or do you love some toffee pudding? No toffee pudding?

Nick (59:01.713)
I am. Yeah, I am. No, I'm not a huge... I'm not a pudding.

Neil (59:06.418)
You know who would hate the dessert on Scotty's menu?

Oh, maybe it was you that hated it. Remember when Matt Andrews was pushing the skillet cookie on us at launch one day? you hated it. You hated it. You hate Scottie Scheffler's dessert. You hate Scott's Scheffler's dessert. Matt Andrews would love it.

Nick (59:17.131)
Yes, no, I just didn't want a cookie for lunch. I did want a cookie for lunch.

Nick (59:29.387)
And then so the decky a couple years ago was sushi Miso glazed black cod Wagyu and it's Japanese strawberry shortcake. Are you still sticking with Scotty? Alright then so this is against Dustin Johnson who you know is probably gonna be close to Scotty's Lobster and corn fritters Caesar salad filet mignon or miso marinated sea bass

And then this is for dessert, peach cobbler and apple pie.

Neil (01:00:03.154)
I'm still probably going Scotty's with the Texas style chili because I do love that but that's that's a good menu What was it? What do you know what Tigers? 2019 his last menu was Okay, I'd like to know what Tigers menu

Nick (01:00:11.989)
I only have the last five.

I mean, I wasn't planning on going back until Tiger's winning in 1997, his buddy picked for dinner.

Neil (01:00:23.132)
When he was a kid, he probably picked chicken nuggets and macaroni and cheese. Dino nuggets and mac and cheese back then. He was like 19 years old.

Nick (01:00:31.211)
We to go back and look at it.

Neil (01:00:35.154)
Cotton candy.

Nick (01:00:38.089)
They? The- Today was the part three?

And last year, the star of the parth- Huh?

Neil (01:00:43.506)
So I'll come.

Sadasali JT started it off with an ace today. He was the first one.

Nick (01:00:50.623)
Yeah, on number two. I think there was four of them. Four of them ones. Fleetwood had one. I think Wendham Park had one.

Neil (01:00:54.13)
Yeah, I saw him. He again. Windham and Keegan were in the same group with Woodland and they both had an ace and then you know JT and I didn't see Fleetwood, but I guess he said he made one.

Nick (01:01:08.053)
Yeah, and then remember last year the star of the par three was Frankie Fleetwood? And yeah, and he's, he's young. He's probably six, seven, six, seven. What? I didn't do it on purpose. No, I promise I didn't. But he couldn't get it over the water on nine, but he said he was going to try his hardest. I'm going to try my hardest.

Neil (01:01:15.398)
since I was a Yeah.

Neil (01:01:21.222)
Yeah, twice you've done this. Six, seven.

starting to wonder.

Neil (01:01:38.098)
That's all I'm putting in.

Nick (01:01:38.251)
So they interviewed him today and he's just like, yeah, I've been working on it. I was feeling pretty good on the range. And he's just like, I'm going to try my hardest. And they're like, yeah, we know you're going to try your hardest. And still didn't get it there. Still didn't get

Neil (01:01:50.343)
put in the This one today looked like it might have had the day he went a little right so if he straightened it out maybe he would have cleared it but poor kid put it right back in the drink maybe next year maybe next year

Nick (01:01:56.587)
Pushed it a little bit right.

Nick (01:02:04.459)
pushed it a little bit, right? And dude, I think next year it's a no brainer that he's gonna put it over. Yeah.

Neil (01:02:13.234)
on the green.

Nick (01:02:17.131)
Alright, let's do a little master's draft.

Nick (01:02:24.319)
Just, we'll do five players on each side. Snake draft.

Neil (01:02:24.989)
going first.

Nick (01:02:31.915)
I won the college basketball draft because I took Michigan. Even though you took Michigan in your bracket and I took Arizona in my bracket in our draft, you had Arizona and I had Michigan. So I guess since you won, I since I won, I guess I'll let you pick whether you want to go first or second.

Neil (01:02:32.904)
Okay.

Nick (01:02:54.387)
If you go second, you get second and third, and we'll snake it from there on.

Neil (01:02:59.731)
I'll go second.

Neil (01:03:04.371)
Yeah, sorry, it's off of Scotty.

Nick (01:03:06.037)
Well.

I mean, look, he's not playing well, there ain't, I mean, I'm taking, if you're first pick, I've got to take Scottie.

Nick (01:03:17.863)
Would you have taken Scottie with the first pick?

Neil (01:03:21.255)
Yeah, probably. It's hard not to, right?

Nick (01:03:22.527)
Would you have taken Scotty with the first pick?

Neil (01:03:26.023)
Yes, I would have taken Sky with the first pitch.

Nick (01:03:26.067)
I just think you'd be irresponsible not to.

Neil (01:03:30.899)
Give me second pick, give me Bryson as my second pick and my third pick, I know it might be too early but give me Xander Shofley.

Nick (01:03:31.019)
All right, second and third.

Neil (01:03:48.029)
Top five of the players and Valspar coming into this thing. I mean, he's looks like he's got his game back. He's finished inside the top 10 and half of his 34 majors. So go ahead and me a change.

Nick (01:03:48.203)
A lot of talk about Xander right now.

Nick (01:04:03.165)
I don't think he's gonna win two in a row, but if he's still on the board, I gotta take Rory. And then for the last two years, the winner of the players has won the Masters. Scotty did it two years ago, Rory did it last year, give me Cam Young.

Neil (01:04:23.869)
Give me, with my next pick, give me Ludwig Eiburg.

And...

Neil (01:04:45.191)
Give me Tommy Fleetwood.

Nick (01:04:50.293)
That was definitely going to be my pick.

Nick (01:04:56.391)
I I did not take it. I don't understand why John Rahm is always so high.

Neil (01:05:05.937)
right third on the CBS article for some reason. he playing? Well, I mean, he plays on Linux. Okay.

Nick (01:05:07.359)
I'm gonna go J-Rose. I'm gonna go J-Rose.

Just because he came so close last year and I think it would be cool to see him win.

And then this is going to be my last pick. So I'm going to go somebody that is kind of

a little bit, like not that high of a.

Neil (01:05:31.677)
Yeah.

Nick (01:05:33.811)
Gonna go... Akshay.

Nick (01:05:42.037)
I had two people that I was really trying to decide between right there.

Neil (01:05:47.571)
So do I have one more pick? Do we have one more pick each or what?

Nick (01:05:48.309)
So you have.

You have one, you have one, two, you right now you have Scotty. No, you have Bryson, Xander, Obear, Fleetwood, so you got one pick.

Later.

Nick (01:06:06.559)
You're Bryson, you're Xander, you're Obear, and you're Fleetwood. For the final pick.

Are we gonna leave John Rom off? Are we gonna leave Matt Fitzpatrick off? Hideki? Minwu? Patrick Reed? Murakawa?

Spieth, Tepka, Gutterup, Hovlin.

JT, I could name the whole field.

Neil (01:06:39.623)
I mean, I'm not picking ROM.

Nick (01:06:44.265)
Rom is the third... Who?

Neil (01:06:48.615)
Yeah. Rom is ranked third here on this. Yeah.

Nick (01:06:50.441)
ROM is the third choice for the odds.

Neil (01:06:55.869)
Fitzpatrick's, he's in the discussion, think, Hideki's in the discussion, he's won there before, but go ahead and just give me Chris Gadara as my last pick.

Nick (01:07:08.053)
That's that I'll be honest, that's who my OXA pick was between.

Nick (01:07:15.979)
Will we see Scottie play better than he has the last couple weeks? I'm done, we're done. My team is Scottie, Rory, Cam Young, J-Rose, and Akshay.

Neil (01:07:16.947)
Do you have one more? What do you got? You got one more?

Neil (01:07:21.713)
Yes, he just has maybe, yeah, he's...

Neil (01:07:28.467)
Okay. Yes, guys.

Nick (01:07:29.191)
Your team is Bryson, Xander, Obear, Fleetwood, and Gawdara.

Neil (01:07:37.127)
I think we see Scottie play better. He just had his baby. Maybe that takes a little bit of the stress off of him. I don't know.

Nick (01:07:55.147)
We'll see.

Nick (01:08:02.326)
I think Cam Young is a guy I'm looking at right now. Xander, I think is a guy a lot of people were talking about that could play well.

Nick (01:08:11.209)
But it's the I think there's something to the fact that the last two players winners have won this tournament. And that's why I wanted to make sure came young was on my team.

Neil (01:08:20.861)
Okay.

Nick (01:08:24.575)
You've been following this Artemis too?

Neil (01:08:27.793)
Yeah, who, I mean, who hasn't?

Nick (01:08:32.939)
They're farther away from Earth than anybody's ever been.

Neil (01:08:33.139)
I think it's unbelievable.

Neil (01:08:38.695)
Yeah, like that's so cool, like it's unbelievable that we can do something like this.

Nick (01:08:45.356)
They were on the dark side of the moon and lost where they couldn't have communication for... I think it was close to an hour, two hours maybe.

Neil (01:08:54.205)
Mm-hmm.

Nick (01:08:58.271)
This is what makes me think about it. Like we're doing this now, it's 2026, we have a lot of technology. We have Teslas that you can hit a button and they will drive for you.

Neil (01:09:09.607)
Yes.

Nick (01:09:12.607)
We did this in the 60s.

Neil (01:09:15.336)
Yes.

Nick (01:09:16.309)
We flew a rocket to the moon in the 60s. And like just seeing this now and then thinking about that the fact that we did this 60 years ago, where technology was nowhere near what it is now.

Neil (01:09:21.287)
Yes.

Nick (01:09:35.143)
is just, it's kind of utterly.

Neil (01:09:36.861)
I mean, I hate that we stopped. I mean, kind of hate that we stopped, but I mean, there were some tragedies along the way that I think kind of led into the reasons that we stopped. But I mean, did you watch the launch last week?

Nick (01:09:51.145)
No, not live. No, did you?

Neil (01:09:54.196)
I did, I did. I was watching the Washington, I'm not gonna lie, I was a little nervous. know, because I mean, you think about Challenger and you think about the, whatever that ship was in 2003, was it, yeah, 2003 that exploded. So you're just like, you're a little nervous when you see this, because like one little minor thing could just blow this whole thing up. Like the slightest something comes loose and then kaboom. But glad it went off without a hitch.

And yeah, like some of the images that are coming out from it all, like of the moon and of Earth, especially with the kind of cameras and technology they have, like you mentioned, some of these images are fascinating.

Nick (01:10:37.493)
Well, and dude, you talk about being nervous about the takeoff, which I get it, but for 10 days, you're just floating in the middle of space. So like, yeah, I get it that there's a sense of relief that the rocket took off, but God, there's gotta be some uneasiness the entire time while you're just, you're on the other side of the moon.

Neil (01:10:47.005)
Yeah, you are.

Neil (01:11:03.975)
isn't this the easy part though? It's kind of floating out there. There's not much rocket thrusts going on and all that. I like this is the easy part right now. It's floating around.

Nick (01:11:11.007)
Look, hey!

Nick (01:11:15.093)
Well, you're talking about coming back is gonna be hard. Well, you're always, I would believe why you're floating in space. The comeback is probably in the back of your mind the whole time. You're just.

Neil (01:11:18.225)
That's gonna be hard. That's gonna be long.

Nick (01:11:30.749)
I how many miles are we away?

Neil (01:11:34.81)
like 200 and something thousand.

Nick (01:11:38.367)
I even know. I just think, I don't know. I'm not a.

I don't know the exact number. Here, 252,000 miles.

Neil (01:11:47.859)
Yeah, let's look it up.

Neil (01:11:53.149)
Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

Nick (01:11:55.135)
They're surpassing the previous mark set by the Apollo 13 in 1970.

Nick (01:12:02.951)
And I don't know, to me that's a remarkable part. We did this in 1970. And they actually got out and walked on it.

Neil (01:12:11.827)
Apollo 13 didn't. They wanted to until that was the one where they scraped to get them back home because that was almost the... Do you not watch the movie? You know, know that Apollo 13 guy with Tom Hanks? my God. Yeah. Let's see. That was Neil Armstrong's.

Nick (01:12:13.227)
That was good.

Nick (01:12:20.969)
I don't... I don't remember.

So they walked on the moon before that, right?

Nick (01:12:36.299)
I mean, I do a lot of research on hoops before we do this pod. Very obviously do not know as much when it comes to.

flying to the moon.

Neil (01:12:47.987)
That was Apollo 11.

Nick (01:12:51.08)
What year was that?

Neil (01:12:53.808)
I was at 1963.

Nick (01:12:56.171)
God, more than 60 years ago.

Neil (01:13:07.734)
sorry, 1969.

Nick (01:13:10.411)
Okay, so a year before. So we were just, there was a point in time where we were just going every year.

Neil (01:13:19.217)
Yeah, yeah, they were, it was quite frequent.

Nick (01:13:24.469)
Well, I think it's pretty cool.

The pictures that they're getting are incredible. mean, and the route they're taking, it's just like a, it's not like they just fly straight there.

Neil (01:13:37.011)
Well, they circled the earth, what, two or three times, I think, before they finally took off. Yeah.

Nick (01:13:42.143)
Like they got to slingshot it. And like the math and everything that goes behind all that.

Neil (01:13:47.675)
the calculations are... But it's gotta be just precisely on point. Like, really...

Nick (01:13:52.127)
Well, and look, it's just my former assistant, Matt Shabert at Morehead State, his son was a student at Morehead and he they have an aeronautics degree and he's working in NASA and he's like in the control center working this day. It's pretty cool. He's I would say he's he's a lot smarter than you and I.

Neil (01:14:09.906)
be a smart kid smart kid

Nick (01:14:16.435)
and getting paid a lot more than you and I.

Neil (01:14:18.718)
Yeah.

Nick (01:14:20.063)
But some people deserve to get paid more and I would say he's probably one of

Neil (01:14:24.126)
Yeah.

Nick (01:14:26.879)
But they come home on Friday, I believe.

Neil (01:14:29.448)
Yo, they splatting or splashing down, where they splashing down at? Some of them, some ocean.

Nick (01:14:34.047)
I don't know. You're the expert.

Nick (01:14:39.413)
So does this land in the ocean?

Neil (01:14:41.566)
Yup. Like they have that little capsule that has like the parachutes attached to it and they just land in the ocean.

Nick (01:14:49.963)
I don't know, clearly I don't know enough about it.

Neil (01:14:54.292)
Will splash down the Pacific Ocean off the coast of San Diego on Friday at approximately 8.07pm Eastern Standard Time. So 5.07 local time. yeah. They're like in this little capsule and like these, like the parachutes slow it up and it just splashes into the ocean. And it floats. And then it floats. Yeah, it's in the movie, but I've seen it a couple other times. And it just floats and then the

Nick (01:15:05.673)
Is that how they always land?

Nick (01:15:13.003)
Is that in the movie?

Neil (01:15:23.998)
Coast Guard goes out and picks them up.

Nick (01:15:26.517)
Did you ever want to be an astronaut?

Neil (01:15:29.204)
Nah, I did that mission space in Disney World at Epcot once when I was a little bit younger and I wanted to barf as soon as I got off. So I knew that that was probably about the time that I was not going to be an astronaut.

Nick (01:15:41.279)
We went to Huntsville in fourth grade. I got a big giant, I spent the night in space shirt. But yeah, never really contemplated being an astronaut.

Pretty dang cool,

Neil (01:15:55.733)
It would be awesome. Like can I just like float in space without the whole takeoff and coming back part? Just like teleport.

Nick (01:16:02.155)
Yeah, I don't think it's possible. I think they make those simulators in Huntsville if you want to do that and feel like what no gravity feels like.

Neil (01:16:07.092)
Just teleport me to like the space station or wherever Artemis is right now and then I'll teleport back.

Nick (01:16:13.406)
Dude, it takes us a certain level of courage to get on that dang thing. Doesn't it?

Neil (01:16:19.794)
Yes. Yes.

Nick (01:16:23.601)
And obviously it's pretty cool to have that opportunity and that's something they've been looking forward to probably their entire careers. But still, even when you get to that moment, just the anxiety that you've got to feel when you're in that rocket and it's getting ready to take off.

Neil (01:16:39.866)
extreme anxiety.

Nick (01:16:41.416)
And then like just to know the next 10 days, you're up there. You're up there and you got to sleep with no gravity and you got to take care of your business with no gravity. And the whole thing is just kind of, it's wild to think about.

Nick (01:17:01.448)
Have you been watching much baseball yet?

Neil (01:17:04.306)
Yeah, been watching the Reds almost nightly. They're down seven to four right now in the bottom of the seventh as Brady Singer did not have his best stuff tonight, but they're the worst offense in the majors. They have scored the fewest runs, but their pitching has been absolutely great, and that's why they're off to an eight and three start. Had a comeback win last night with down two in the bottom of the ninth, and thanks to a wild pitch, got it to extra innings and put up a couple of extras. But Reds are off to a great start, eight and three, best start since 2000.

Nick (01:17:20.426)
They had a comeback win last night.

Neil (01:17:35.476)
2011 maybe? 2010, 2011? But yeah, I've been watching the Reds nightly and I saw your Braves getting into little fight last night.

Nick (01:17:45.288)
Yeah, Ronaldo Loepas left the one a little high and tight, really wasn't that close to him. Jorge Soler...

Neil (01:17:50.16)
That was right after St. Laird. St. Laird took him deep earlier in the game though.

Nick (01:17:53.845)
Took him deep, it really, wasn't, he wasn't throwing at him. It wasn't even that close to be throwing at him. former Brave, former World Series MVP for the Braves, he's had two stints with the Braves. But they threw down on the play or something.

Neil (01:17:56.882)
I don't

Neil (01:18:10.568)
Yeah, why did it take him so long? If he was gonna charge them, why did it take him so long? They just chirping at each other for a while?

Nick (01:18:14.858)
So yeah, they I think somebody stole and they threw down on the play and they don't even have the cameras on either Soler or Lopez and all of a sudden you hear the announcer go start screaming. Oh, they're going at it. And yeah, they just trying to chirp in a little bit and then Lopez said something and then Yeah, and then so Larry charged the mound and dude he was throwing some haymakers so

Neil (01:18:20.532)
They did.

Neil (01:18:35.476)
Lopez got a good shot in. Lopez got a good shot

Nick (01:18:44.65)
Lopez was kind of backpedaling, but dude never took the baseball out of his hand. And swaying with the baseball in his hand.

Neil (01:18:49.064)
did it. He did. And he connected. He got a nice little piece of Solaire.

Nick (01:18:55.086)
And then Walt Weiss, the manager comes in and just body spears Jorge Saler to the ground, gets him up, calms him down, and basically ends the whole thing by himself.

Neil (01:18:58.058)
yeah.

Neil (01:19:09.396)
Walt Weiss might have it, think Walt Weiss has a career in the WWE? The Goldbergs here?

Nick (01:19:13.04)
I They say he works out more than any other manager But dude, I mean he just took it was a football tackle

Like shoulder tackle, didn't use his neck, didn't use his head, took him straight down.

Neil (01:19:26.974)
So no targeting on the play, a nice fundamental wrap up action. Go for wall.

Nick (01:19:30.61)
No targeting. Now Solerian Lopez both got seven game suspensions today.

Neil (01:19:37.032)
Why you give Soler the seven games? He's the one that charged them out. But why you giving Lopez seven? Give him, he also is a pitcher so he misses what, one start?

Nick (01:19:45.265)
It really doesn't affect him as much. But also, like, what is he supposed to do when he gets charged? Now, look, it might be because he was chirping a little bit too, and you kind of instigated that way, maybe, but.

Neil (01:19:54.132)
That's what saying, like why is he getting the same punishment as Soler who charged the mountain and started this? To me, you can like, floor him.

Neil (01:20:05.141)
I mean, we don't have a camera to tell us that he was chirping, I don't

Nick (01:20:08.804)
There is cameras, you can see him talking. Yeah, he was talking. And not at first, but I think Soler was kind of staring him down and talking and then Lopez talked back and that was it.

Nick (01:20:25.38)
I don't have anything else. Nobody's putting phones in chicken coops. We tried to promote that. No other restaurants have followed suit.

Neil (01:20:27.647)
No, no, that's it for me.

Nick (01:20:37.204)
We got it.

Neil (01:20:37.269)
Have you put your phone down more frequently at dinner in the last week?

Nick (01:20:39.851)
I've thought about like, it's more in my consciousness, I will say that. I'm trying to be better. I'm trying to be better. Trying to be better.

Neil (01:20:45.023)
your internal coup.

Nick (01:20:53.0)
Zach Brian on Saturday?

Neil (01:20:54.783)
Zach Brown on Saturday at the L &N Federal Credit Union Stadium.

Nick (01:21:01.376)
The lights will be open like normal, right?

Neil (01:21:04.137)
Five hours before concert time, so lots will be open at two.

Nick (01:21:07.624)
Do know what that cost?

Neil (01:21:09.045)
50 bucks. 50 per car. So pile your buddies into your Chevy or whatever you got over there and split the cost.

Nick (01:21:18.026)
because there's no doubt that's a tailgate event.

Neil (01:21:22.537)
The weather's gonna be nice. Weather's gonna be nice in the afternoon. Behave yourself.

Nick (01:21:28.444)
and the Louisville Kings on Friday night. I'll be out there again in my red hat.

Neil (01:21:31.349)
Yeah, they're not off. They are not off to a good start.

Nick (01:21:34.804)
I'll be out there again in my red hat.

Neil (01:21:37.023)
former car Jack Palomar coming to town?

Nick (01:21:39.849)
Who they playing? Orlando?

Neil (01:21:41.385)
Yeah, I think that's where he is.

Nick (01:21:43.817)
I will say the first game was a great crowd. The weather is gonna be a lot better on Friday night. So if you didn't get out there the first time, come check it out. was football wasn't great, but I think it'll get better. do think it'll improve. And the crowd was awesome. The let's go Kings chant when they took the lead in the fourth quarter was pretty cool.

Neil (01:22:02.582)
That's nice, that's nice. Hope this is a successful venture.

Nick (01:22:06.386)
I do too, I think it would be good for the city.

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Neil (01:22:19.837)
I do. Sure do.

Nick (01:22:34.238)
But I think that's about it for this one. Just still a little sad that the tournament's over. I'm glad I watched one Shining moment, so it kind of wraps the bow on it. I'm sorry you didn't experience that. Sorry you don't care about that, honestly.

Neil (01:22:48.361)
You know what I am looking forward to? You ever watch the dude that does the master's recaps, the raps, like that's coming up tomorrow on Friday? I look forward to that guy.

Nick (01:22:48.606)
But what.

Nick (01:22:54.994)
Yes! Yes!

Nick (01:23:01.522)
That, yes. What's his Tiger Woods chant? Where's, he goes, where's Tiger or something? don't know.

Neil (01:23:03.039)
Chris Vernon, I think is his name.

Neil (01:23:12.595)
Yeah. Tony Fee now where he be now.

Nick (01:23:15.178)
where he'd be now and then the guy's like, two over and he's like, the one thing that sucks about it is the shows only weekdays. So you don't get a continuation over Sunday, Saturday and Sunday. Like with the momentum that he has with that, he should do it standalone without it actually being part of his radio show. It's Chris Vernon. I just remembered his name off top of my head. It's he does a show out of Memphis.

Neil (01:23:26.259)
Right. We'll get on the weekend. Right. That is...

Neil (01:23:34.44)
Yes.

Neil (01:23:37.978)
I Chris, I just said that. I'm glad you listened to me because I said his name 10 seconds ago.

Nick (01:23:46.718)
Well, your audio has been kind of going in and out throughout the entire show. So hopefully this show listens. It sounds OK.

But for the 6-6 deal, I'm the 410 Nick. We will likely talk to you next week on Monday night. It'll hit your podcast on Tuesday morning. We'll see you then. Yup!