Whitney Stakes Preview, Renegade Wins the Jim Dandy & Tarik Skubal Joins the Dodgers

Nick (00:13.166)
We are back. It's the high differential. That is the 6-6 nil. I am the 410 Nick. We got the results from the dandy. We will talk about that. We were wrong again.

Nick (00:32.044)
Yeah, and we really weren't even that close in this one. But we'll we will break that down. We'll also talk about the Whitney, which is which is this weekend. We're turning into a horse racing pod. Churchill and Naira has announced a six race series, which has a lot of positives but also has some negatives. We will go into that. And baseball's trade deadline. The Dodgers like always are making moves. And there's other teams like the Braves and the Reds that pretty much did nothing. So we'll go we'll we'll go into that. But

Neil (00:58.949)
They did nothing. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (01:01.418)
Spent the weekend on Saturday at at Spike Out Sarcoma, out there at the blind squirrel. Had to fight off the rain, but w was a good day for a good cause and was good to see a bunch of people out there on Saturday.

Neil (01:13.709)
Yeah, no, it's it's always one of those events that you have circled on the calendar because, you know, like you said, it's for a good cause. for our buddy Michael Van Over's foundation for his brother. to spike out sarcoma and you know, the whole crew's always out there. You know, the the the ice cold buckets of beverages are flowing, you know, the food's always qu pretty solid at the blind squirrel. Didn't win any raffle prizes, bought couple of raffle tickets and came up empty once again. I pretty much have the worst luck when it comes to raffle prizes. So

Nick (01:42.388)
dude, I've I don't I've never won anything like that.

Neil (01:44.155)
It's it's impossible to win those things, but no, good day, good day.

Nick (01:48.34)
Rumour was like there were a couple of people that won multiple prizes at the same time, like

Neil (01:52.462)
It I that's what I heard. I did hear that, but I mean it's all about how many tickets you buy and how many tickets you put in the buckets for each each prize, so

Nick (02:00.95)
Yeah, and I mean I think I threw multiple in one of them, the bourbon one, but yeah, the rest of are just getting one and couple a couple of the golf prizes we threw we threw some tickets in there, but none of us won. I did get a new Spike Out sarcoma t shirt. I did realize that the one I was rocking f was from twenty nineteen, so it was time to upgrade. So we did get a new shirt and it w bunch people were out there getting Shady Ray sunglasses, which all of them are donated by Shady Ray. So that's

Neil (02:05.499)
Still still came up empty.

Neil (02:19.835)
There you go.

Nick (02:27.63)
Pretty cool of Chris Radderman and those guys out there at at Shady Race. But it was it was a good day. The the kiddos were all putting together a tattoo parlor the entire day. So by the end of the day, I think we all at least had three tattoos. And a couple on our necks where we didn't even know what we were getting. I think mine was a dinosaur egg on the right side of my neck. And I what did you end up with on your neck?

Neil (02:31.354)
Yeah.

Neil (02:37.037)
yeah. That's right.

Neil (02:43.685)
Sure did. Sure did.

Neil (02:54.262)
man, I I I had a dinosaur, I had a pirate, I had a shooting star, I don't know, I had all kinds of stuff all over me. So I it

Nick (03:02.028)
I had a rocket. I had a rocket on my arm when was hoping that would be a little omen to what would happen on Sunday with Ricky Fowler playing in the in the Rocket Classic, but he did not play well on Sunday. So it did not do it did not do any good. But good times were had out there on Saturday. And like I said, I was impressed. It was raining about as hard as it can rain without being a thunderstorm. And those those people were just playing volleyball right in the middle of it, like nothing's going on.

Neil (03:34.009)
Yeah, no, they they kept at it. No y no no lightning, so they said play on.

Nick (03:43.399)
And as we wrapped up spike out, we we went over to Brownies and we were able to catch the the Jim Dandy, which was taking place Saturday afternoon at at Saratoga. We were both against Renegade for the win. I think you had him finish in third and I had him finish in fourth. Is that correct? And I I think a lot of the I mean a lot of the reasons I had him finish in fourth is because you knew that it was gonna be commandment and renegade both kind of battling.

Neil (04:02.575)
That is correct, yeah.

Nick (04:13.57)
for the favorite and and both hovering around that one to one mark. And Todd Pletcher, we had talked about it last week, just how much he had struggled in in this meet. He was 0 for 17 on the main course, for fourteen with three year olds, for five in stake races. Well, that all came to a close on Saturday as he wins five races and basically

Neil (04:24.815)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (04:41.302)
It was a feat he only he hadn't the last accomplished since two thousand and four, and he shares the record with Chad Brown, who's done it three times. So he got off the mat in a big way, winning five races, and and the the big one of the day was was Renegade.

Neil (04:56.249)
Yeah, no, like I you said I I had him finishing third. I had Chip Hancho as my winner and he finishes fourth and what really was a four horse race, 'cause the f I don't even remember who the fifth horse was in that race, it just totally didn't belong. but Yeah, no. Good for Todd Pletcher. Renegade, you know, we we've always said he's he's been he's been a good horse. He just, you know, came up short in the derby, by by a nose and

And he's glad to glad he's back in in the winner circle and was this a did is this an automatic qualifier for the for the classic or no? This was not.

Nick (05:34.785)
No. No. It's just a precursor for the Travers. But w one other reason why I was all for Indegate is because he likes to come off the pace. And we didn't know how much pace was gonna be in this race. And I'll be honest, it looked like he was way too far back. It looked like he was way too far back. And even Todd Pletcher talked about he was concerned. And like yeah, I don't know. He he might be a little too far back there to get him. But I rad just

Said this is the way this horse likes to run. He trusted the horse that he could make a move. Came very wide. And it was Commandment, who was kind of out battling silent tactic. Looked like Commandment was finally going to win. This horse it likes to come in second, it looks like a little bit. It was it was wearing blinkers for the first time. And you know, they talk, Flavian Pratt talked about how it took him a little bit to engage the silent tactic, but when it se finally saw him there, he would re-engaged.

Neil (06:20.707)
That's the way it's been, yeah. Yeah.

Nick (06:34.72)
And maybe he didn't see Renegade coming from the outside with those blinkers and Bradcock said he didn't blame the blinkers for why he didn't win the race, but you do wonder if maybe he doesn't have blinkers, does he see Renegade coming from the outside and he figures out a way to finish finish the race?

Neil (06:54.969)
Yeah, no, like w the like you said we talked with the commandment putting the blinkers on for for the first time and and trying to get him more focused, and not go so wide on the turns, but no, you you you have a point there. Like, you know, if you don't have those on, you can kinda see, you know, what's going on in your peripherals and maybe you know, you see him coming, but I don't know, Renegade was just the better horse that day. I mean he he he lost I mean he was what f five five or so lengths behind Commandment in the Belmont when Commandment finished second and

Yeah he got his revenge on him.

Nick (07:27.874)
Well, and that was another reason too. Like I just thought that commandment sturby race, you could throw it out a little more because there's twenty horses. It's harder to throw out a Belmont race when there's not twenty horses, but I I think that race, Renegade just didn't have its best stuff. And I even talked about it. You're leaving Renegade out of your tries. This horse is probably too good to do that. And it ends up burning you. But in this race with five horses, really only four, 'cause Aston answered who's the horse that you couldn't remember, had no chance. Like

Neil (07:35.599)
Yeah.

Nick (07:57.208)
This horse had no business being in this race. So there's four horses to bet. You had to take one of the favorites out to even try to win money. And because it was Renegade and Commandment 1-2, I think the $1 exacta played four bucks. Like it's just it was not a race to to make money. But I I think Renegade is now clearly pointed towards the Travers. And you know, we've seen multiple horses over the last

couple of years go from winning the dandy to winning the Travers. Sovereignty did it. where I've got the list here. It's it's four the like Sovereignty did it in twenty five, Fierceness did it in twenty four and essential quality have d it did it in twenty one. Only fourteen have done it since nineteen sixty four. But but it's happened a lot here recently.

Neil (08:55.355)
Yeah, no, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see how if he can keep it up. See if he can keep it up.

Nick (09:02.072)
Well, commandment might

Neil (09:04.699)
I was looking s I was looking something up as you were talking there, so I kinda tuned you out. Yeah, I don't know.

Nick (09:07.702)
You're you're killing me. I mean, I've waited for it we're ten thirty going live. We normally do this at eight thirty. I took a nap waiting for Neil to get ready to do this show. So you would expect him to be on his A game, but I I don't know what he's looking up after I've just waited twenty minutes for him to finally jump on while we're staring at each other on on the screen. Brad Cox talked about he didn't know what he was gonna do with commandment, potentially the Travers.

I I think maybe the Pennsylvania Derby was was an option for him as well. but we will we will see.

Neil (09:43.659)
We should still get we should. I mean, what's the is there an update on Golden Tempo? I mean, they were pointing him toward the Travers after the injury. Is he still on track for that? Have we had any any news on on the chosen one?

Nick (09:54.242)
We got we got an update on tempo. He he breezed four furlongs over the main track at Saratoga on Sunday. with with with Jose Ortiz aboard. He did that four furlongs in 4767. So looks like he is pointed towards the Travers and and ready to go. Mike Rapoli talked about after the win how they would have loved to have seen.

Golden Tempo in in the dandy because he is the best horse of the crop and you want to beat the best. And but it looks like they'll get a chance as Renegade and Golden Tempo will go head to head in in the Travers, which will will be fun to watch. Cause we we really didn't see it in the Belmont like we did in the Derby. You want to see those two horses down the stretch fighting it out to see who's gonna win.

Neil (10:44.943)
Yeah, it'd be good to get Tempo back, see if he can still prove that he's the best of this not so great three year old crop, but

Nick (10:53.965)
So kind of a wrap on on the dandy. Like it's just full horse field, impossible to win money. We tried to figure out a way to make some money, but when it's commandment renegade, finishing one two, which probably everybody was predicting that. We just didn't because we were trying to win money. but

Neil (10:54.364)
please, all right.

Neil (11:11.951)
I I was hoping Chip Honcho w would get out and hold the lead and he did not. That that would have been a little bit little bit of value, but not quite.

Nick (11:17.121)
Just just I don't think that horse is of the caliber of the horses that finish one two.

Neil (11:23.457)
No, he's not. He's not.

Nick (11:27.655)
And on this Saturday, we're staying at Saratoga. We've got an ace horse field in the Whitney. And a lot of horses that ran into Steven Foster are running it back. And we will try to pick some winners as I think magnitude in the Foster is the last one I got right. I don't have you got one right as as we've been predicting all these.

Neil (11:52.485)
Came in second. Came in second I believe, but yeah, no, no wins yet. No wins yet.

Nick (11:53.044)
You're over.

You're Ofer. I didn't officially pick Lapoleon Solo. I did talk about how I thought he was gonna be a contender in in in the preakness. So I can't officially take credit for that. But yeah, I did take magnitude. So at least of all the horse races we've broken down, I've picked one winner. It you need to get on the board.

Neil (12:18.575)
We I th I feel like we're we're we'll be on the board after this one. I think the Whitney is I'll break the streak here at the Whitney.

Nick (12:22.274)
But we do need to get started with with the Whitney breakdown. In the one hole, starting on the rail, it is magnitude. Nine to five on the morning line. Jose Ortiz remains aboard. It's one four straight. I mean, this horse, he's just you talk about horses trending. This is a horse that's trending.

Neil (12:43.951)
Yeah, no, he and and we talked about that back when he ran the foster. Like he was coming in as the hottest horse in that race against a pretty good field. And I think once again it's it's the same thing. You know, he obviously won the foster, so he stays hot. You mentioned he's won his last four, including, you know, the foster, but also that Dubai World Cup where he beat Forever Young.

and he won a couple other stakes races as part of those four as well. So he also in his last race in that foster he ran his best Equibase speed figure of a one sixteen. So he's in good form right now. he's gonna try to set the pace. I mean that's what he does. He's gonna try to get out fast. Problem is there's some other horses in this race that will also try to set that pace. So he's gonna get pushed. so if he gets pushed a little too much, you know, maybe that could spell some trouble. but

Yeah, he's coming in as is a hot horse and I think he's definitely got a chance to win this thing.

Nick (13:39.279)
Well, you talk about the the one sixteen or the one sixteen Equibase figure, one ten on on the Bris net in in that win in Steven Foster. Like, let's not forget he broke through the gate at the start of the and he had to be reloaded and and he still put up that performance. And to me that adds e even more quality to it. He he's got he Jose Ortiz aboard who is just as hot as jockey as there is right now.

Neil (13:51.324)
yeah, that's right. They had to they had to re yeah, they had to put him back in there. That's true. And he still won. Yeah.

Nick (14:09.066)
i on the circuit. You're right. Like I do think who this next horse that we're going to talk about, Nitrogen the Philly, is going to push him, push the pace on him a little bit. So we'll see how he handles that. it's his first Saratoga appearance since the Travers last year, where he was defeated by 20 and a half or almost 21 links by Sovereignty. So if you're looking for a negative, that potentially could be one as he's never won at at Saratoga.

Neil (14:28.837)
Twenty and three quarters. Yeah. Yeah.

Neil (14:33.979)
Yeah.

Nick (14:38.296)
But this horse is nine to five for a reason. And I mean the Yeah. So I mean there's he's he's gotta be a win contender. If he's not, then you really don't know horse. in the two-ho, it it's it's Nitrogen, the Philly, ridden by Johnny V, trained by Mark Cassie, going off at four to one.

Neil (14:41.061)
Yes. He is ranked number one in the N T R A polls as well.

Nick (15:04.534)
If nitrogen wins this race, she'll become the first female racehorse to win the Whitney since personal insign in in 1988. Your thoughts on nitrogen?

Neil (15:11.067)
Nineteen eighty eight.

Neil (15:17.497)
Yeah, I like this Philly. sixteen starts has never finished outside of the money. So sixteen starts, eight wins, finished second five times and then third three times. You know, finished first in her last race on June fifth at Saratoga, in a grade one, defeated Philly's and Mayors in in that one and won by twelve and and three quarters length. So, you know, a dominating performance the last time out. It's Philly's three for three on the dirt at Saratoga, so she's gonna be right at home.

You know, she's gonna try to press that pace with magnitude, which you know, if if if magnitude doesn't like it, then you know, nitrogen's gonna be right there to t to to take it over. So had a career best one seventeen Equabase speed figure in that June fifth race that I just mentioned, which is slightly faster than Magnitude's best. The only negative I see here is Jose Ortiz has ridden nitrogen in fourteen consecutive starts and has opted to ru to ride magnitude.

so this is gonna be John Velasquez's ride. Something that maybe Nitrogen's not familiar with that jockey could be a problem, but I think this horse is good enough to overcome that. Definitely a win contender.

Nick (16:26.131)
Yeah, a lot of jockey changes in this in this race because like like you said, Jose Ortiz opting to ride magnitude, which I think is the obvious decision there. Coming off of nitrogen, so Johnny V jumps aboard a nitrogen, and then Johnny V is riding nitrogen, so Manny Franco's aboard antiquarian. So a lot of changes with the jockeys. I like you said, like

Neil (16:36.539)
Correct. It is the right choice.

Nick (16:54.306)
This horse is finishing the money every single time out. Now the majority of those are against Phillies and Mares. So now we're running against the boys. How will this horse perform against the boys? And I am so excited just to see how she does. If it wasn't trying to go head to head with magnitude, like some one of the better front racing horses that are out there, I I would say this horse has a chance. I just

Neil (17:00.379)
Mm-hmm.

Nick (17:25.484)
I don't know. I I don't think it can go toe to toe.

Neil (17:26.395)
I mean three it's hard to over three for three at Saratoga. Just one by just one by just one by twelve and a half or twelve and three quarter lengths. You're gonna tell me it's not a win contender?

Nick (17:29.762)
Three for three for Saratoga too. I know.

Nick (17:37.664)
I They can't all be win contenders. And there's there's no doubt this horse can win the race. It has the speed figures to do it. I just and if it does it, I think it'll be a great story.

Neil (17:40.89)
they're not all win contenders. They're not.

Nick (17:54.22)
I just think I don't know. I think there are other horses that I would rank above nitrogen as having the second or third best chance to win behind magnitude. So I I think you gotta include it in in your your tries and your supers, but I don't know if nitrogen is the win content.

It's tough it's tough to leave her out. I will say that. In a three hoe, it's antiquarian ridden by Manny Franco, as we just said. Trained by Todd Pletcher, going off at ten to one.

Your thoughts on antiquarian?

Neil (18:28.345)
Yeah, like we talked about magnitude coming in as a a hot horse and we've got Antiquarian here coming in as is not she's kinda it's kind of a cold horse, I guess, if you maybe like a lukewarm ish. Not not hot at all. So struggled in the last two races. Finished fourth on July fourth in the grade two Suburban Stakes, and then finished fourth and on June sixth in a grade one metropolitan handicap. where I mean, they it did go up against Nysos and Journalism in that metropolitan. So both really, really good horses, but

You know, lost in those two races by a combined seventeen and quarter at lengths, finished eighth last year in the Breeders' Cup Classic. So, you know, when it's going up against quality horses, it doesn't seem like it's usually coming out on top, except for one one time, last August in the grade one jockey cup, when it beat Sierra Leone and White Abarrio. But that was a long time ago, about a year ago. So ever since then, kind of been struggling a little bit. Top speed figures are one thirteen. it's gonna be a stalker, so

It's gonna have to run down some pretty quality horses out front and the two that we just talked about. And, you know, Manny Franco's on on board first time riding it as you mentioned with John Velazquez opting to ride nitrogen instead. So I think that's all you need to know is John Velazquez thinks nitrogen's a better horse. I think nitrogen's also a better horse as well as some other horses here. I don't really see this horse factoring in. I've got it as a toss.

Nick (19:52.632)
See, I but and I I think this horse's gonna be a little more off the pace, in this race, potentially. because I just think it's gonna be so fast up front. did get off to his like he stumbled a little bit in the suburban stakes. And that kind of put him behind the the eight ball. Now look, he still finished, what, eleven lengths back in in fourth place. So it's not like he was passing a ton of horses there at the end.

Neil (20:04.601)
Yeah.

Neil (20:15.523)
Yeah.

Nick (20:23.477)
Yeah, I I could still I just this horse is going to go off at 10 to 1 or or worse. And I do think this I mean it's just yeah, I think there's some value here. This horse isn't gonna win the race. But I could see it potentially finishing third or fourth to help, you know, get that try or get that super price up. but it's it's it's not a win contender, but I'm I'm putting it in my tries and my super.

Neil (20:32.25)
Value.

Neil (20:36.635)
Mm-hmm.

Nick (20:52.503)
Ford steel going off in the four-ho, ridden by Michael Husbands, trained by Safi Joseph. The owners is C2 Racing Stable, which also is the same owners of Whiteabario. And this horse, I don't think, really has any chance at all, and is strictly in here to be a rabbit to try to help set up the pace for White Abarrio. So if you've got anything to add to that.

Neil (21:14.307)
Yep. Yep.

Nick (21:22.263)
But I I this horse has no chance to win or finish in the money. It's trying to set up Widabario to finish off the race.

Neil (21:28.315)
Yeah, it's you know, you're it's you're spot on. It's the only reason this horse is in there is to just try to wear magnitude down, get up there, just try to run him run him out a little bit. So no, this horse doesn't have a chance. When we just talked about the suburban stakes, he finished fifth in that one in his last race behind Antiquarian. Yeah, no. I've got this as a toss.

Nick (21:50.168)
And then we move to the other horse from that stable, Whiteabarrio, ridden by Irad, trained by also Safi Joseph. Coming off a really disappointing fourth place finish in the Steven Foster. This horse has just been kind of, you don't know what you're gonna get. But maybe there's value there if it's a good day for White Abarrio. What what are your thoughts on this horse?

Neil (22:11.215)
Yeah, if it stays around eight to one, there is some value there. it's an old horse, obviously, the oldest horse in the race. Seven years old, twenty seven starts. you know, like you mentioned, he finished fourth in that Stephen Foster behind magnitude byza and sovereignty. You know, was it not his best effort because the track was a sloppy track 'cause it was raining there at at Churchill? Maybe. So, you know, maybe that factored in. I don't know. But this horse is inconsistent. I mean i they it

Nick (22:16.257)
Seven years old.

Neil (22:39.661)
It's run well in the past here at Saratoga, won this race, the Whitney back in twenty twenty three, and posted its highest speed figure of his career back then was w at the time was a one twenty-two. So maybe he likes this track. Maybe he can, you know, get back to the glory days of when he was running th those high speed figures. You know, he had a great start to twenty twenty six when he he had a victory in in the Oaklawn handicap back in April and beat sovereignty and journalism and then was second in a in a great race in the Pegasus World Cup.

in January. So he was good to start the year. Kinda struggled like you mentioned in the Steven Foster, but I don't know. I just think that there's other horses in here that are slightly better. I put him in the the tri supers range.

Nick (23:25.419)
Yeah, dude, you talk about that Whitney back in 03 or 23. He beat Zanded in Cody's Wish. Like, and this horse is still running. And we've talked about this before that Stephen Foster. Like, the fact that this is horse is still running, has name recognition. Like, this is what horse racing needs. They need names like this that people are familiar with. And I just think it's so cool that this horse is still running at at seven years old. You talked about potentially him getting back to Saratoga. Could be a positive because he won the Whitney.

Neil (23:28.731)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (23:54.634)
in in twenty three. Yeah. Yeah. And and that's kind of what this horse is to me. Like, he's not a super try contender. He's either you're betting this horse to win to hoping you hit big, or you're leaving him out completely. Because that's pretty much what this horse does. You just you don't know what you're gonna get. I think because his name recognition is what it is, I think he could go off a little higher than eight to one. It might be closer to six, seven to one.

Neil (23:54.702)
Well, he hadn't w he hadn't finished in the money in any other four starts. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Nick (24:24.77)
But

Neil (24:25.091)
I mean he's yeah, his best chance I mean, if if he's gonna win, he needs that that quick early pace. He needs that you know, the the forge steel and and forge steel to do his job. I mean that's what forge steel's in here to do is to to help Watabario and he needs forge steel to t to to do his job. So if he does, then yeah, he's gotta I think he has a chance. And it's with those odds, yeah, it's worth it's worth him a a win bet.

Nick (24:33.305)
no doubt.

Nick (24:50.081)
And look, he didn't fire in the foster at all. And I think some of that may have have to do with the sloppy track. Like that could be an excuse for him. So this horse, it's just it's such a cool horse. And you just never know what you're gonna get. Like I think it's worth if he's eight to one, it's worth a ten dollar win bet just to see what happens. But and look, maybe put him in your tries and supers, but I think it's either all or nothing with this guy. I think he's either gonna

Neil (24:56.495)
Yeah. Right.

Neil (25:11.899)
Mm-hmm.

Neil (25:17.755)
I mean he he did finish second. He finished he finished second back in January, so it's it's possible he's a it's a try. I put him in the try sooner. I know.

Nick (25:18.753)
finish first or are you gonna finish out of the money?

Nick (25:24.545)
Which is the only time other than back in December of what? Twenty four. That's the only other time he's finished second. The other times he's either finished fourth or out of the

Neil (25:32.325)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Neil (25:36.346)
Yeah, yeah.

Nick (25:39.361)
In the 6-0, it's your boy, Sovereignty, ridden by Junior Alvarado, trained by Bill Mott, going off a three to one. You are on this horse in the foster. You are a stand of this horse.

Neil (25:51.992)
Yeah. We're yeah, yeah. we're we're we're kinda we might be getting off the ride. I don't know. I don't want to get off the ride yet, 'cause I l really, really like this horse, but we might it might be time that the roller coaster ride has come to an end and it's time to to to move on. So he just hasn't I mean he's he's he's a still a good horse. Don't get me wrong. I mean his odds at three to one tell you he's a great horse. And he just hasn't

Nick (25:54.955)
Where where are we right?

Neil (26:16.357)
been the same as he was in twenty twenty I mean w in twenty twenty five, you know, when he wins the Derby, the Belmont, the Travers, the Dandy, he would have been one of the favorites in the Breeders Cup before he got scratched. Like that's the horse that I remember and the horse that a lot of people expect. And then when you look at his starts of first two starts of twenty twenty six and he's, you know, finishing third in the Foster and and he finished second back in April in the Oaklawn Wide Obarrier. So he's losing to these horses that he's going up against, these, you know, three other horses.

that are in this race and he's lost to all of them in twenty twenty six. So I might be getting off the ride. I don't think he's gonna win this thing. I would still put him in in my try. but yeah, it's it just sucks. I wish he was gonna win, but it it's just he's not the same.

Nick (27:02.465)
Look, he definitely hasn't had the form that that he had in 25. But if I'm looking at these two races, I think you can make excuses for both of them.

Neil (27:10.714)
Yeah.

Yeah, you're on w you're on the excuse train here. You're on the excuse train.

Nick (27:17.569)
Well, in the Oakline, he was way too close to the lead. Way too close to lead. And the the pace was fast, which allowed Wyatt Barrio to come and just storm past everyone. And and then potentially maybe the slot played a role in the foster. Now, this horse has won on slot before. I know. And this horse has ran on slot before. He won the derby in the slot.

Neil (27:21.945)
Yeah. Yeah.

Neil (27:30.139)
Yeah.

Neil (27:38.331)
There's other hor there's three other horses that also reign in the slop in the foster.

Neil (27:45.819)
Correct. Correct.

Nick (27:47.64)
So it I just this if you just look at his speed figures, he's better than every horse in this race, even magnitude. If you just break it down consistently for his entire career. And I mean, do you think he'll go off a three to one?

Neil (28:09.315)
Yeah. I think I mean I just think that everybody just knows he's the Derby winner. He's, you know, the Belmont winner. He like they they I think the name is going to make his odds probably lower than they probably should be, but

Nick (28:23.831)
Well, and also the last three times he's won on this track. So I think it's odd because you're jumping off when he's going back to a track that he loves, because I potentially think this is where you would jump on sovereignty. So

Neil (28:42.093)
I'm just looking at the last two races and and he's losing to these other horses that are in this race. And his speed figures, although s like you said, they're still good, like they're just not up to where they were, you know, last fall, last summer.

Nick (28:54.913)
Yeah. I just

The he's the last three times he's won have all been on this track. And the pace is gonna be a little faster, which I think could set up for him because magnitude's gonna get pressed a little bit. Now, I I am a fan of horses on the lead. Like I just as a handicapper, I like that because it takes out any kind of trouble, takes it out of the equation. So probably would make me lean magnitude, but I do think sovereignty can win this race.

Neil (29:16.495)
Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Neil (29:24.251)
So you're putting him as a win contender? Okay.

Nick (29:28.683)
In the seven hall we have Tiz Tastic, trained by Tyler Gafflione, or written by Tyler Gafflione, trained by Steve Vasmus. Thirty to one.

And I think for good reason, can this horse get in money? It's a closer. Could it get in the money?

Neil (29:42.885)
Yeah.

Neil (29:47.18)
Mm it like it it all comes down to the pace again, you know. If it's a fast early pace, it could help him get into the tri supers as he's, you know, running by some horses late. but other than that, I mean, I don't think he gets, you know, up up to the win category or even in an exact category. So I would keep him in a tri super if you have him in there at all. You know, his his speed figures, best speed figures are one five, which is just not comparable to some of these other horses. He finished third in his last race, the suburban stakes.

where he did beat antiquary in a forge steel her in this race. But yeah, finished tenth in the Derby. His other two stakes races last year after the Derby, he finished ninth and tenth. So when he's running against some quality competition, it just doesn't go his way. So no, I'm not even gonna put him in the tri super. I there's a potential he gets there, but no, I've got him out.

Nick (30:39.137)
Yeah, I I just don't if you just match this horse's resume up with everybody else, he he doesn't belong in this race. And I I don't care if he's fifty to one. I d I don't think I'm putting him in my tries or supers. Now look if the pace completely collapses, am I gonna feel like an idiot if he finishes fourth and I don't have him in my supers? Yeah, probably. But I I just I

Neil (31:04.532)
At thirty to one it's worth it. I think you for thirty to one if you're gonna try win some money, it's worth maybe throwing something on there.

Nick (31:11.593)
It's maybe, but maybe like I don't know. It's just you can th there's two horses in this race that don't belong. And and he's one of them.

Neil (31:18.937)
Yeah, correct. Correct.

Nick (31:22.999)
Could I be talked in and be like, look, it's worth a shot, just throwing him in third and fourth, potentially. But I I I don't even see him finishing that high.

Nick (31:34.037)
In the eight-hole, it's by Aza, going off at seven to two, ridden by Flavian Pratt, trained by Bill Mott.

F like this horse just can't figure out how to get to gate, get out of the gate, and then rallies late to finish in the money for the most part. Is just two for eleven in his career. But I still think a lot of people are fans of this horse.

Neil (31:47.055)
Yeah.

Neil (32:00.412)
I mean, it's hard not to be a fan of the horse. Like you said like his like you gotta get out of the gate, man. Like the last three races he's struggled to get out of the gate and then you're looking at the finish line and he's charging past everybody. And if the races were just a little bit further, he probably would win. So if he can get off to a good start, then yeah, he maybe has a chance I think of breaking this, you know, reputation of being such an he's so close. Like the the but what ifs and so

You know, like the his right like that la last race against Stephen Foster, when he lost the magnitude. I mean he was he was the fastest horse down the stretch. So yeah, I mean he's he's always there. He's always there. Yeah, he's his best speed figure came in the foster when he posted a one fourteen. So if he can duplicate that again in i i in in have another great effort like that, I mean, he's got a chance. He's got a chance.

Nick (32:53.645)
I mean, we were there on Oaks Day in the Allah Shuba, where he did the same thing and had a bad start and rallied flying down the lane to get to third. And I do think this is a good horse, but I don't know how you can trust it to get out of the gate and to beat horses of this magnitude. I there's no way like at seven to two, there is no way I'm taking Baez at seven to two on the morning line.

Neil (32:56.899)
Yeah. Yep.

Nick (33:23.777)
When I can get sovereignty at three to one. There's just no way. And

Neil (33:23.791)
Not the way, yeah.

Neil (33:28.206)
No, I would agree with that. Yeah.

Nick (33:31.135)
And I like I would like to see this horse win a race and I think he has the ability to do it. But the only great stakes horse this horse has won in his career i is the Pennsylvania Derby.

And he did beat magnitude in that race. But it's just I just think seven to two is too high for a horse that's won two times in eleven tries. That struggles to get out of the gate. Now, do I think that I I think he'll finish in the money because that's what he does.

Neil (34:04.131)
Yeah, definitely. I would definitely have in your try. Definitely.

Nick (34:07.501)
But I just can't trust this horse. Especially when he's that close to what Sovereignty's line is. And it'll be interesting to see what they go off at, but you gotta include him because he figures out a way to finish at the end. And he's done it every race except for the classic. Where he's finishing the money and I mean that hor that race, like he's just up against like horses that he's not gonna beat and and Forever Young and Fierceness, but

they gotta have him in your tries and your supers, but I I don't think bias is a win consider. So what do you wanna do? Top four?

Neil (34:46.531)
Yeah, we I I've got four in mind, yeah.

Nick (34:49.421)
All what do you got?

Neil (34:52.431)
I'm gonna are we starting I guess we're starting with like who who we think is winning. Is that what we're gonna go with on top? I got magnitude on top. he's gonna get out quick. I in just his most recent results. I mean, he's just coming in is you know, he's probably gonna win horse of the year if he can win this race. so he's coming in hot. He's gonna get out front. I think he stays there. I ex like kind of a Stephen Foster-esque kind of run from him. So give me magnitude out in first.

Nick (34:55.679)
Yeah. Do do your one through four. Do your one through four.

Neil (35:24.387)
After that it gets the next three it gets close.

Give me sovereignty second, nitrogen in third, and Baeza fourth. And I could switch Baeza and Nitrogen, but those are my top four.

Nick (35:45.252)
I'm gonna flip it on you. I don't think sovereignty is done. And I think nitrogen and Ford steel are really gonna push the pace on magnitude. I think he's gonna fight. I think he's gonna fight like hell down the stretch, but I think sovereignty is gonna get him. I think this is where sovereignty back at Saratoga gets back in the winner circle. So I'm I'm going sovereignty up top, magnitude second.

Neil (35:47.172)
Okay.

Neil (35:50.799)
Okay.

Neil (35:56.443)
I mean that's what they're there for, yeah.

Neil (36:06.127)
Okay.

Nick (36:11.083)
Baezan third because that's what Baezan does. And then I'm gonna go antiquarium r rounding him up in in the super to to finish him fourth. It'll give you a little bit of a little bit of a price. I think this horse can do it. I think his his numbers are are better than ten to one.

Neil (36:27.397)
I mean he's finished f well, yeah, he's finished fourth in his last two races, so you're putting him in fourth yeah. But you're off of you're off nitrogen who's never finished outside the money.

Nick (36:33.751)
So

Nick (36:38.155)
Yeah, you gotta be off somebody. And

Neil (36:40.795)
I mean, that's a that's one to be off of when in sixteen starts they've been in the money sixteen times.

Nick (36:45.355)
Well, you've been in the money sixteen times when he's rac when she's racing against Phillies and Mayors. A and now she's going against boys. Like I I I think there's a reason why Phillies and Mayors don't race against the boys all the time. Now look, I am excited to see this race and see what what she does. And if she wins, I think it's gonna be awesome.

Neil (37:03.663)
You've seen her spee you've seen the speed figures from her. Okay. Okay.

Nick (37:06.965)
I know. I know.

So I'm going sovereignty, magnitude, baeza and an aquarium, and you're going magnitude, sovereignty,

Neil (37:22.661)
Give me yeah, give me nitrogen and then byeza. Yep.

Nick (37:22.838)
Nitrogen. Okay. So we're both leaving out White Abario.

Neil (37:29.007)
Yeah. He's just the grandpa of the group, man. I think i i he's just yep. And we're leaving I'm leaving him out.

Nick (37:36.567)
We're both leaving out Wide Abario. We're leaving out the two horses, the Tiz tastics and and the Fort Steel, and then we'll use the rest of All right. Yeah. I'm excited there's more horses in this field.

Neil (37:45.935)
Yeah, that's Aquarium. Yeah.

Neil (37:53.264)
Yeah. Yeah, these five the five horse races when really there's only four quality horses I mean it's it's fine, it's exciting 'cause four of the horses are great, but when you can get more quality horses in a race it makes it way more fun.

Nick (37:55.882)
Yeah.

Nick (38:09.427)
This this this pod is gonna be so much horse racing because there's more horse racing news that came out earlier this week. Churchill Downs and Naira announced the unveiling of the Thoroughbred Championship Series, which is a new six race competition that will begin next year. And it will feature feature the Derby, the Belmont, the Matt Wynn stakes at Churchill, the Jim Dandy stakes at Saratoga, the Travers Stakes at Saratoga, and then there will be a championship race at Churchill.

Neil (38:36.549)
Championship race. Just the championship race.

Nick (38:39.638)
Like

Nick (38:43.115)
Yeah, I mean all all these races are gonna be on TV. The t the races at Churchill will be on NBC, the races at Saratoga and Belmont will be on Fox. I think it's cool that Naira and Churchill are working together, that the the New York Tracks and and the Church obviously Churchill here and Louisville are are working together. Your your overall thoughts on this for horse racing?

Neil (39:04.675)
No, I love it. I love it. Like when you when you know any when you can have more races with quality horses in it, it it's it's good for the sport, it's good for the viewers, it's good for the fans. So, you know, as long as the owners buy in, I what is it, a five million dollar prize at the end of it all. So as long as, you know, the owners buy into it and and wanna go after it, it's gonna be great. I mean, it's gonna make for some some really good racing.

What it also does is I think we've we've killed the preakness, which is very unfortunate because, you know, Triple Crown was always like, you know, the crown jewel of this sport.

But in recent years, as we've talked about, a lot of everybody's skipping the Preakness. The Preakness has become irrelevant. And there was a way that there was a few ideas we threw out there and trying how to fix it. I think Churchill Downs tried to buy the Preakness and try to fix it. And when that got shot down, I think they the riding was on the wall. So good night Preagness. I mean you'll still some horses in there, but it's not nearly w it's never gonna be the same.

Nick (40:05.323)
It's it's not it I mean, yeah, it's it diminishes the preakness a little bit. It's it's not completely goodnight to the preakness.

Neil (40:12.739)
It not completely, but it's if it doesn't help I mean, you're not gonna get you're not gonna get those derby horses in there anymore.

Nick (40:15.22)
And

It doesn't. It I mean, it's still a part of the Triple Crown. The trip this does not the Triple Crown is still a thing. This just does not include the Preakness as part of the point structure for this six race series. I I will say the Romans talked and I think one of the reasons why the Preakness isn't included now because they don't wanna when it's gonna be raced, where it's gonna be raced next year, when it permanently gets back at at Pimlico, they

Neil (40:24.613)
Correct.

Nick (40:45.067)
There are talks that this is a working series, that you know, this isn't what it's going to be. They could potentially add races. So potentially the preakness could be added. the I think the way that it's going to be structured is that you must race in four of the six races to qualify. And then there'll be some kind of point system based on your finishes. And the Derby will hold the highest, like you get the most points.

Neil (40:53.04)
Yeah.

Nick (41:14.967)
For the Derby. But I the main thing about this is name recognition with horses. And people know the horses that run in the derby because that is the most watched derby or the most watched race in the country. And to have those re those horses continue to go each up against each other five, six more times, it is gonna be great for horse racing. And it's smart to capitalize on that. I I do think it's sad that the the prickness is being left out.

Neil (41:15.129)
Yeah. Well that makes sense, yeah.

Neil (41:22.426)
Mm-hmm.

Neil (41:30.917)
Correct.

Nick (41:46.226)
And hopefully it could be added here in the future. Because it needs to be included in this. And but the issue is Churchill tried to buy it and was on the verge of buying it. And then the state of Maryland said, nah, we're we're neglec we're we're we have the right of refusal and we're buying the rights to the freakness. And so Churchill maybe had a little bit of indetta in this because we we tried to get it and now we're gonna

Neil (41:52.929)
There's no doubt it should be. Yeah.

Nick (42:14.455)
We're gonna show you that you should have just let us buy it and let us because then it definitely would have been a part of this series. There's no doubt about it. No doubt about it. So I I think that played a role. but overall, I I think this is a great thing for horse racing. And there's other races like the Ohio Derby and the Pennsylvania Derby and all them kind of being left out. The Haskell Stakes, which we talked about a couple weeks ago, not being included in this. So there are some.

Neil (42:20.251)
A thousand percent. There's no no question.

Nick (42:45.373)
races that are being left behind. But I think overall this this is really good for horse racing. And honestly, they should do the same thing for the Odor group. They should do something similar for the Odor group of horses. And we just talked about the Foster, now we're talking about the Whitney. They need to do something similar. Because like people like the familiarity of seeing horses that they're familiar with running against each other. And that's that's what's gonna make the Whitney fun on Saturday. And that's what's gonna make this series fun.

Neil (43:09.509)
Yeah yeah.

Neil (43:15.355)
I would agree with that. Absolutely.

Nick (43:17.033)
Any other changes to it other than adding the pregnancy?

Neil (43:20.667)
I mean we haven't done anything yet, so I mean I don't know what I would change 'cause I haven't actually seen No, no. I mean those those six races or f I mean five of are, you know, staples in the sport and then we just had this championship race. Whatever that means. I mean, sure, so we got Yeah. So yeah. So no, I I I wouldn't change anything yet. I think that the ideas that they have out there are great. We'll s see how it works and

Nick (43:23.499)
With the structure, like

Nick (43:35.511)
I mean, we we're already watching these races, right? People that love horse racing, but now there's just a point system for all of and it

Neil (43:49.979)
I mean if you need to tweak it, you tweak it, but I think the the plan that I that's been presented is is a good one.

Nick (43:56.405)
What what we what we callin' this this grand championship race?

Neil (44:03.249)
should call it the height differential stakes.

Nick (44:05.453)
Well it probably costs a little bit. We we really gotta get our followers up by next whenever that race is. We we we need to start something. Might need to rob a bank or do a lot more and start a GoFundMe if we want to get our name on that on that.

Neil (44:08.975)
Let's get a GoFundMe. Let's get a GoFundMe started for this thing.

Neil (44:15.643)
Ha ha.

Neil (44:21.563)
Well we're definitely not gonna get there betting nine to five horses to win, that's for sure.

Nick (44:28.821)
No, but we've got more opportunity to make some money this week in the Whitney than we did last week. Dandy. This there was no way to make money in that race. And when you try to act like like you try to force stuff into happening because you want to make money and then it makes you look like even more of an idiot that don't know horse. And Randigate was too good of a horse for us to be picking back and forth, probably. But it's just boring too to pick two horses that are gonna be six to five and eight to five, but

Neil (44:35.819)
There was not.

Neil (44:49.701)
Yeah. That's true. Yep.

Nick (44:57.857)
I mean I guess we both just depict sovereignty and magnitude one two in in in the Whitney, which is gonna be three to one and eight to five. So I don't know. We just talk about it both sides of our mouth sometimes.

The trade deadline was earlier this week. Surprise, surprise, the Dodgers get to reek Scooba.

Lotta people like your thoughts. Like is this a is this a Dodgers problem? Is it a baseball problem? Like to me, like there's no rules against it. They're the best team, they spend the money, go get the best players. Like I hate it as a great fan, but

Neil (45:29.121)
I know, I I don't Yeah, I'm not blame Yeah, I'm not blaming the Dodgers. It you know, like you you hear their their GM or their owner, they're basically saying, you there's thirty two other teams that could have gotten scoobable if they wanted to. You just gotta pay the right price. And the Dodgers have it figured out. They've got the money, they've got a lot of deferred money, which allows them to spend now. So I it's it's not the Dodgers' fault. I don't blame It sucks. Like the baseball definitely has a competition problem.

When the Dodgers, you know, are spending all this money and other teams like the Reds or the the Guardians or the Marlins or whoever are are spending a a fraction of that. So they're never gonna be competitive. So there's definitely a problem. And, you know, going into this this collective bargaining agreement that most likely will end in a strike, they're trying to solve some of these issues. So I don't know. I don't blame the Dodgers. It sucks. You know, they're gonna win the World Series again. There's nothing anybody can do about it.

Nick (46:28.087)
Well, I mean, that's the thing about baseball though. Like you just never know what's gonna happen. The best team doesn't always win. The Dodgers have done it the last two years, but that doesn't mean it's gonna happen again this year. I mean, the Blue Jays were were a couple outs away from winning it all last year, and now they're fire selling their team. But but like to me, like you knew the Dodgers were gonna make moves. Like that's not a surprise. And you knew if the the Tigers were gonna trade Scoobyl, then they were gonna be probably the team to get And that's what happened.

Neil (46:33.925)
So it doesn't mean it, but they've got a damn shit.

Neil (46:40.333)
Yeah. Yeah.

Neil (46:48.431)
Yeah. No.

Nick (46:57.537)
To me, like the Tigers are two games out of the wild card and they're trading one of the best pitchers in baseball. Like, is that not a little bit of a problem?

Neil (47:07.193)
I mean they w what's what was Scoobyl's deal? Is he on the last year of his deal?

Nick (47:11.605)
Yeah, I mean and they knew they were gonna lock him up, but but do you not take I I don't know. I don't know. And then the Red Sox gave up their whole farm system and in their trades. As a month ago they were dead and they go and win sixteen games in a row. And they traded three of their top five prospects. So I don't know. I it just

Neil (47:25.755)
Well two well three weeks say three weeks ago they were Yeah.

Nick (47:39.457)
If I'm the Tigers and I'm two games out of the wild card, if you get in the playoffs in baseball, you just never know what's gonna happen. And if you scooboal at the top of that rotation, who knows what you can do?

Neil (47:39.915)
It's just

Neil (47:47.824)
No, it's it's it's the same every year. It's it's the same teams that are spending money and making deals, and it's the same teams that are just sitting on their hands and not doing anything 'cause they don't want to spend any money. You know, it's always the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Red Sox, the Cubs, you know, the Phillies, the Mets. Like these these are the same teams every year that are they're making moves, spending money, going and and trying to win championships. And when's the last time you heard the Cincinnati Reds make a a big deal or the the Oakland A's?

Or, you know, it's like the the Miami Marlins. Like nope, like these same teams, they just kind of sit on their on their hands and if they're constantly in rebuild mode. They don't try to win championships. They don't spend money. They're just well rebuild, rebuild. And the Reds, I don't even know what the Reds were doing. And we can talk, we were we're gonna talk about them and the Braves not doing anything, but the Reds have the all these expiring contracts, and you only unload two of them. And you go on for one was for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and international

bonus money or some bullshit. Like your two you're like your two your two biggest you know expiring contracts that were going to bring back the biggest hall was were Tyler Stevenson and and Brady Singer and you kept them both. Like what to to what hopefully win four months like the difference between them leaving and staying is what you're gonna win four more games? What does that matter?

Nick (49:00.599)
Yeah. I mean

Nick (49:10.017)
Well, you gotta have a trade partner on the other end, like and you gotta get what you want. Now look, if you get late in the deadline and you're getting where you're getting nothing for then your price should probably come down.

Neil (49:16.193)
What do you ask it for? What do you ask right, but that's what things like what do you a are you just asking for something so outrageous that that nobody wants to dance with you? Like

Nick (49:22.615)
But and look, dude, I ain't like I don't like crushing people on this pod, but Nick Crawl looks like an idiot in that press conference. Like he's he's wearing a plain green polo in front of a sink. In front of a sink. The sink is the backdrop. Like what are we doing? Why is there no there's no Reds logo on his body or on the backdrop behind him at all? Like, why are we allowing this as a Reds organization for this to go out in public?

Neil (49:29.611)
Yeah.

Neil (49:39.002)
Yeah.

Neil (49:52.311)
It's a joke. It's a bad look. It's a joke.

Nick (49:52.361)
It's such a bad look. And and look, when the Reds do make a move, they get Cabrian Hayes, who bats 082 and has five more years on his contract. Like like what are we doing? Like they don't have the the the financial capability to make mistakes like that. And you finally make a move and you get a guy like that who now you won't unload and nobody will take him.

Neil (50:02.469)
Yes.

Nick (50:18.433)
And then you go do a press court in front of a sink in a green polo.

Neil (50:21.947)
But it's like so if you're right, you're you're the Reds, right? And you're right now you're sitting f I think they're about five games out of the wild card. They still have f about five teams in front of to to try to pass. So the odds of you get doing it, not great, but you're not so far out of it that you maybe couldn't make a run. But you did nothing to improve your team for twenty twenty six this current year. And you've done nothing to improve your team for twenty twenty seven, which is what you sell at the deadline, that's what you're aiming for. So you did nothing to improve this year's team to try to win.

And then you did nothing to improve next year's team. And if you don't do one of those two things, why do you have a job? Like what are you doing?

Nick (50:57.793)
I don't know and now they're they're in like I don't know if it's true or not, but they're saying they're looking to trade Hunter Green. Like who is contract is about as manageable as you can have for a frontline starter.

Neil (51:08.63)
for for for an ace, yeah, for his it it's yeah.

Nick (51:10.231)
Like what are we doing? What are we doing?

Neil (51:16.987)
It's Nick Nick Crawl. The Castellini suck. Nick Crawl sucks. Like the Cincinnati sports franchises have the worst owners and the worst GMs, which I guess if you want to call Duke Tobin GM, but the worst GMs and the worst ownerships in their respective leagues.

Nick (51:31.895)
Bro, bro, the Bengals aren't even in the same conversation as the Rex. Which is just amazing. Amazing. But you've got two one two starters locked up for five years. You and like good on them for getting that done too. But then, and look, maybe it wasn't true, but usually when there's talks, if they're looking to trade people, there's at least a little bit of

Neil (51:36.087)
No, no, they're not. They're not. They're not. I mean Which is insane. Which is insane. Yes. Yeah.

Nick (52:01.609)
Smoke to that. I mean, heck if you like, yeah, I'll take Hunter Green and his contract. Of course.

Neil (52:10.181)
Like it just like it it it sucks because like Cincinnati is a baseball town. Like the the Reds are one of the most storied franchises in baseball history. You know, they've won five World Series. They have the biggest opening day in all of baseball. Like it's a huge thing. Like the Reds fans will support this team, but you gotta give them something to support. And when you're in the offseason and you have a chance to go get a guy like Kyle Schwobert and you screw that up.

What are like what is what what what is the message here? Like what do you want Reds fans to do?

Nick (52:40.618)
Yeah, I I don't know why we really didn't go more into that when it happened. Because he wanted to to be a red.

Neil (52:46.895)
Yes, like it was it was there for the taking and you didn't take it.

Nick (52:49.43)
Go make it happen. Go make it happen. Like

Neil (52:52.197)
Just screw it up.

Nick (52:56.406)
Go make it happen. but no, it's

Neil (53:01.083)
They're just stuck in a wheel of mediocrity and they don't try to get out of it.

Nick (53:07.126)
Yeah, they don't they don't you gotta trade Tyler Stevenson, you gotta trade Brady Singer. Like you have to. You have to.

Neil (53:15.001)
Said you got Caleb Ferguson for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in international signing bonus space or some crap. I don't know.

Nick (53:25.034)
Now, the Braves did go out and get two former Reds. That was their big move. They got Brent Suter and Tyler Malley. So see if that takes them over the top.

Neil (53:28.891)
Sola I saw that Prince Sudar.

Nick (53:36.608)
There was there were talks that they were trying to get Jacob de Grand and he said, Nah, I ain't leaving Texas. He invoked his new tr his no trade clause.

Neil (53:43.941)
How's he doing down? I haven't been following the Rangers. Is he doing is is de Grom having a decent year?

Nick (53:47.852)
I mean, he's I think he's hovering around a four V R A. He's actually been healthy this year, which that has been his biggest problem, but

Neil (53:50.851)
Okay. Yeah.

Nick (54:01.065)
Scoobyl Scooba loses tonight to the Cubs in his Dodgers debut.

Neil (54:05.147)
But I mean if you as a brave, like you w yeah, you want to get better, but I mean you guys are pretty damn good as you are.

Nick (54:13.856)
Yeah, but the just they're just their starting rotation just doesn't have a lot of depth to it. Which adding another frontline starter, not even an ace, like just a good two or three would have been what they were probably looking to do. And I mean look, dude you the

Neil (54:26.287)
Would a Brady Singer W would a Brady Singer have piqued your interest?

Nick (54:31.158)
I mean, I don't know. I think he's kind of what they have now.

Neil (54:33.797)
He's like a four?

Nick (54:37.494)
I mean, look, to make a trade, you have to have somebody like both ends of the the both ends of the trade have to agree. And I just think when it becomes four or five getting close to six o'clock and you've got guys that are into their contract and you're gonna lose them for nothing or lose for a couple of prospects, your your price probably comes down a little bit. And I maybe I maybe by the time their price came down it was just too late. But you gotta the Reds have gotta trade those guys. And and you talk about

The the strike that could be in like all the there's gotta be a s a a spending ceiling and a spending floor. Like like the Dodgers spending what they spend is is an issue, but they're not breaking any rules. But the problem is the teams that aren't spending money at all to be competitive. That's more of a problem with baseball than the Dodgers. At least the Dodgers are trying to put an entertaining product out there. And I'm not a fan of the Dodgers, but at least they're trying to win.

Neil (55:17.935)
There's no you have to have a floor. Yes.

Neil (55:38.287)
I agree.

Nick (55:39.724)
I mean, these teams that aren't even trying. It's that's and that's what's been wrong with baseball our entire lives.

Neil (55:42.595)
And if your ownership's like

So, like if you're the owners of like if you're the Castellinis, right, and you own the Reds, like I mean, I guess you're making money on it, but like what like what joy do you get out of this? Like the fans hate you. Your team sucks. Like, what joy are you getting in owning the Cincinnati Reds when they don't win, the fans don't like you? What what's the point? Like if I owned a team, I would want my team to be good. I would want the fans to be happy, right? Like I want this thing to be a success.

And you don't even try to do any of that.

Nick (56:19.168)
No, and like they gotta and look, the Bengals them not making a playoffs the last three years has been a failure. But fans have still shown up. The fans have shown up because the product at least they score points, right?

Neil (56:28.771)
They're trying.

Neil (56:34.617)
Yes, and they're they they re signed the guys that we wanted them to re sign. Like they're they are at least trying to be good.

Nick (56:36.778)
What right.

And then two years ago they re-signed T and Jamar and they just didn't have the wherewithal to do anything but the defense and that's why you you suck and that's why you don't make the playoffs. But then a year later you go and fix your defense and now everybody's excited again. Like the Reds could look at Ellie and Sal Stewart being their Joe and their Jamar. And and then you got two eight you got a one and two pitcher that's locked up too. And build around that. Like get some excitement in the city for baseball. Like you're right, they'll show up.

Neil (56:49.423)
Yeah. Yes.

Neil (57:09.029)
Well then but then it but like the Bengals also did something that they never do and they go out and they trade and get a huge you know, a a huge a huge guy in Dexter Lawrence. Like they never do that, but they did it because they know that they needed to do it because they want to win and one, they want to show the fans that they're doing like what the Reds would never go get a guy like a Dexter like the equivalent of a Dexter Lawrence in in baseball.

Nick (57:35.818)
No, and I never thought the Bengals would either. And we hear Duke but we hear Duke Tobin talk once or twice a year. And what did he say in that end of the season? We I'm all I'm a defensive line guy. Like we gotta get our defensive line right. And then he actually went out and made moves to prove that that's really what he wants to do.

Neil (57:38.405)
But they did. The Bengals show that they could do it. The Reds need to show they can do it.

Neil (57:52.22)
Like it was a they made a splash. They made a big splash. The Reds, like they dip their they don't even dip their toe in the pool. Like they don't make any splash. Like zero splash.

Nick (58:02.732)
I mean at Suarez is their big slash. That's their that's their big splash this year.

I mean it is, right?

Neil (58:12.065)
I guess I yeah, sure. Which says done.

Nick (58:15.564)
I mean the only thing they've done in the off season and in the season. Like you don't get Schwarber, so let's go get let's bring Schwarez back. And let's Right. No, I agree. I agree.

Neil (58:19.003)
That ain't a spot.

Neil (58:23.193)
Yeah, like Schwarper's the splash. Like you had the chance to to make a to to jump on him that deep end and and and cannonball and make that splash and you you just god. And then for them to just to just stand by Nick Kraw for as many years as he's been there is just

Nick (58:30.408)
I agree.

Nick (58:34.764)
Wow.

Nick (58:41.42)
Do you not own a red's polo, dude?

That th he doesn't own a Reds polo. Like what the

Neil (58:48.053)
yeah, cry. He can take mine. You can I'll lend I'll lend him mine. He can keep it.

Nick (58:54.7)
Like I just can't imagine like being Meteor Lac Inside anybody like I'm setting up an interview allowing anybody associated with the organization to go officially on camera in a public appearance without any kind of logo for the team they're representing on. And then you put them in front of a sink.

Neil (59:15.323)
Mm-hmm.

Nick (59:16.63)
Like what if somebody would have came in washing their hands in the background?

Neil (59:21.508)
Yeah.

Nick (59:23.072)
Like I got I got on the video of this pod, I gotta put a still shot of what it looked like. 'Cause it have you seen it? It looked ridiculous.

Neil (59:29.167)
Yes, I have seen it. He looks he does. He's just an idiot. Yeah.

Nick (59:34.956)
You you had the idea like we need to do more drafts. So we did last week we did Best Food Leftover.

Neil (59:49.243)
Mm-hmm.

Nick (59:51.389)
And I I think the response has been pretty positive. We needed more of those. We've got some ideas for things that we probably left out. Chinese food being one of them. what were some other things that we may have left out?

Neil (01:00:02.843)
Yeah. Yeah.

Nick (01:00:08.394)
We got we got killed for saying chili not higher. I got that at at three. There was some people saying we should have picked chili higher. I thought it was a value selection, getting it getting it there.

Neil (01:00:14.957)
Yeah.

Neil (01:00:19.413)
we didn't draft ham, right? We just threw that in as a what could have been in there. Yeah. But I've had some some ham suggestions.

Nick (01:00:22.058)
You just threw that in at the end. Yeah.

Nick (01:00:28.746)
But overall, you dude, Uncle Steve loved your pie selection. Was was big on your your pie selection. Also said you could have just thrown that into Thanksgiving dinner and then you wrap up the whole game with your first pick because you've got turkey and stuffing and pie and everything. So we're gonna we're gonna keep the food. It's not always gonna be a food draft, but we're gonna keep the food theme this week. And I guess because you went first this week last week, I'll I'll go first this week. But we're gonna do

Neil (01:00:33.627)
You did.

Neil (01:00:56.41)
Yeah.

Nick (01:00:57.76)
Foods that are impossible to eat cleanly.

Neil (01:01:02.629)
Like your favorite foods. Like your right?

Nick (01:01:06.358)
I just the foods that are the messiest, the messiest to eat. Like you're obviously not gonna eat you're not gonna deal with the mess if you don't like it.

Neil (01:01:10.127)
But we're but but we're not we're not drafting No, but we're not drafting based on the messiness, right? We're bas

Nick (01:01:17.236)
You're drafting based on the messiness.

Because that's what the thing is. It's the messiest foods to eat.

Neil (01:01:28.495)
But they like they have to be like foods you like. Like you're

Nick (01:01:31.562)
Well, if you're you're not gonna deal with the mess if you don't like it.

Neil (01:01:35.141)
Okay.

Nick (01:01:36.886)
Right?

Neil (01:01:38.511)
I thought we were just drafting like our favorite messiest foods. They're our favorite foods that are impossible.

Nick (01:01:42.282)
Well, I mean, I I think that plays a role, but it's not the end all be all.

Neil (01:01:46.541)
I I could tell you the messiest food, but I might like hate it. But if I'm drafting because of messiness

Nick (01:01:49.6)
Well then that that's not going to be on here because you're not going to deal with the mess and eat it. Because why would you deal with it if you hate it?

Neil (01:01:55.248)
Right, so you're so right, so you're saying like your favorite messy foods. Alright, just go.

Nick (01:02:03.275)
My first pick.

Nick (01:02:07.104)
I mean it's gotta be ribs.

Neil (01:02:09.337)
Ooh, wow. Okay.

Nick (01:02:11.008)
It's gotta be ribs. Like because you gotta pull the bones apart. You're getting the barbecue all over your fingers. All you get barbecue all over your like you're gonna have forty-seven napkins while you're eating like ribs is is gotta be the number one pick.

Neil (01:02:26.501)
So like that means like you think it's the messiest, but you also enjoy eating ribs. Okay.

Nick (01:02:31.392)
Yes. And I'll deal I'll deal with the struggle because they're good.

Neil (01:02:37.037)
My f number one pick, which is probably one of my favorite foods, give me the saucy wings. Give me the buffalo wings. Any kind of sauce that you like on there if you don't like spicy. Just give me the chicken wings. Sauce them up.

Nick (01:02:53.194)
Yeah, and that I mean that's similar to ribs, right? You're you're still like the difference is you don't have to like tear apart, like separate But other than that, very similar. Very similar. You're

Neil (01:02:56.429)
It is. See

Neil (01:03:01.881)
Right. But you're getting it all over the face. Now are now tell me tell me if if if you agree or disagree with this move. Here's how I eat my wings. I only eat my wings one handed. Like if you I do take your wings two handed and give it the little thing. See I always keep one hand clean so I can pick up my drink and not make a mess on my cup. And I just one hand the wing the whole way.

Nick (01:03:23.336)
I'm probably a two-hander. I see what you're saying. Like, honestly, with the you got your flats, like I've gotten to where you try to get at least one of the bones out completely. And maybe even sometimes both bones. Sometimes both bones. There's a whole strategy with the fingers to to get it out of there. and then you just get a clean bite. Like flats over drums all day, right? Okay. But yeah, I

Neil (01:03:24.687)
You're too high. Okay.

Neil (01:03:34.949)
Ca you gotta rip it. You gotta rip the flat. You rip the bone off the flat.

no.

Neil (01:03:46.925)
I would agree with that. Yes. Yes. That's that is correct.

Nick (01:03:50.071)
I mean I I think ribs and wings are right there hand in hand, one, two. Which one you pick first overall, it I think can go either way. But I think your third pick maybe gets a little tougher. With your s your second pick, but the third pick overall.

Neil (01:04:02.329)
Okay. that's right. Give me now do I I can do like a broad category, I could get kinda kind of specific here, but I mean the broad category would be like pasta. I love p good pasta, you get sauce on the shirt, but let's go spaghetti and meatballs. Give me a spaghetti. Love spaghetti, but you know, you got the red sauce, you you're eating that spaghetti and that you're getting that red drip all over your shirt.

You got the you got the tomato sauce on your shirt?

Nick (01:04:31.19)
What? That's a you don't even get your hands in it. That's a terrible selection.

Neil (01:04:35.949)
You don't n what does it have to put no but if it gets on your clothes

Nick (01:04:38.464)
You have zero napkins. You have zero napkins for spaghetti. All you have is a f napkin on your shirt.

Neil (01:04:41.253)
Guy, guy, you're not thinking of the consequences. You're not thinking of the consequences. The consequence is with spaghetti, you're probably gonna get it on your clothes. And then you'll go around looking like an idiot the rest of the day with freaking red stains on your shirt. You get it on your hands, guess what? You can wash it off and the mess is gone. No, no, you gotta think of the consequences of the mess. You're not thinking of the consequences of the mess. So yes, you're eating pasta, you're getting it on your shirt, which is most likely. Don't wear a white shirt.

Nick (01:04:58.134)
The whole thing about being messy when eating is getting it on your hands.

Nick (01:05:08.669)
no, I might have to use a tide stick for five seconds.

Neil (01:05:11.801)
You can pull out a tide stick every time? No.

Nick (01:05:13.898)
Like the messiness is the hands. That is where the mess is. Like you're not getting spaghetti all over your face and all over your hands.

Neil (01:05:16.763)
No it's not.

Neil (01:05:22.777)
No, but you're gonna get it on your shirt and you're gonna look like a dumbass the rest of the day when you're walking around to that that No, it's not. It's not. Plus plus I'm s like I said, I'm going quality of food here. I'm going stuff that I like. I'm putting spaghetti as a messy food that I like, my number two pit.

Nick (01:05:26.479)
my that is a that is a terrible selection. It is an awful selection.

Nick (01:05:38.464)
Well we can name any food we want because it's our favorite and put in this list, but spaghetti is not messy.

Neil (01:05:40.667)
Pasta.

Neil (01:05:47.663)
Why do they have s okay, then why when you go to Skyline Chile, why do they give you a bib?

Nick (01:05:52.438)
So you don't have to use the testick for one second on your shirt. So you don't have to use the tide stick for one second on your shirt.

Neil (01:05:53.443)
Why do they give you a bit nick? What?

Neil (01:06:00.72)
So it's messy, 'cause it's getting on your shirt.

Nick (01:06:02.305)
Yeah, but they ain't giving you a stack of napkins like that.

Neil (01:06:06.281)
It doesn't you're not like I said, it's the consequence of the mess.

Nick (01:06:10.4)
Now if you said maybe if you said a cone instead of that's more messy. But all right.

Neil (01:06:13.119)
for God's sake. No, you no. You're an idiot.

Nick (01:06:19.05)
I'm going crab legs. Number four. My second selection. Like, you gotta get in a crack. Like, it's all about getting your hands dirty. That's what this is about. You just you just you don't understand. I'm going crab legs, you're dipping in the butter, you're pulling them all out. You're getting it like you got you got your crab bib too. So if you're worried about the spaghetti, you got your crab bib when you're eating your crab legs. Getting all buttery. It's another thing where you have 47 napkins.

Neil (01:06:31.982)
Okay.

Neil (01:06:36.064)
I got one then. Okay.

Neil (01:06:40.399)
Okay. Okay.

Nick (01:06:48.332)
I think for my final selection, because I I've got one more, right? Yeah. We're doing three. And I did and with my final selection, I guess I will go corn on the cover.

Neil (01:06:56.131)
We're doing three or four? Okay.

Neil (01:07:06.533)
Dude, they make corn holder. Like that's a that is a that is a terrible pick. That's a terrible pick. They make things you stick in the corn on the cob Using eat you even have to get a mess. You don't even get a mess. Also, by God, you hold it on the ends of the corn so that you don't make a mess. Corn on the cob. my god. You don't even need those butter, like how much butter you slobbing on this thing, dude.

Nick (01:07:08.436)
Nobody uses those corn holders. Nobody uses those corn holders.

Nobody uses those. Like they haven't used those since the 1970s. Like, I haven't seen those.

No nobody is taking the corn holders and just guess because you get butter all over your hands.

Nick (01:07:34.536)
you you put a lot of butter in your corn though.

Neil (01:07:35.512)
Jesus Christ. My God, that's that my I don't I don't even think I make a mess when I eat cooler on the cop.

Nick (01:07:42.599)
Look, and here's the thing too. Like if I'm on a date, I ain't gonna eat corn on the cop, I ain't gonna eat ribs, I ain't gonna eat crab legs, because I'm gonna look like an idiot. I'm gonna have corn all in my teeth, butter all over my face, butter all over my hands. Like that's what we're talking about here. Like I would eat spaghetti on a date, and I'm not

Neil (01:07:57.188)
Okay. Well I got one for you then. Well I just got my last pick is gonna crush your corn on the cob. Like it's going to crush it. And you're gonna be like, damn, that's a really good one. Give me the cotton candy. You're picking at and it's sticking to your fingers. It's all over your face. If you ever take an your niece or your nephews to a the fair or a baseball game and they get a cotton candy, you gonna tell me that it ain't a complete disaster of a mess?

Nick (01:08:03.766)
Well fine.

Nick (01:08:07.627)
Okay, what is it?

Nick (01:08:23.424)
Yeah, for the for eight year olds.

Neil (01:08:25.773)
If you ate a cotton candy, you're gonna tell me you're not gonna have a mess on your hands. You're gonna tell me that if you ate cotton candy, you wouldn't have a mess.

Nick (01:08:27.37)
For eight year olds.

Nick (01:08:32.724)
I'm not gonna be as messy as an eight year old. I think an adult can figure out how to eat cotton candy without getting it all over their face.

Neil (01:08:38.491)
I don't think that it's possible, my guy. It's not. It's not.

Nick (01:08:41.31)
I do like and also when's the last time you're eating do like you said you're picking things that are your favorite foods. Is cotton candy one of your favorite foods?

Neil (01:08:48.867)
I mean you know my thoughts on cotton candy blizzards. Absolutely. Absolutely. Cotton candy I would eat yes, I would eat a cotton candy. Like if I'm at a baseball game, give me a cotton candy.

Nick (01:08:51.132)
Yeah.

Nick (01:09:00.374)
So I've got ribs, crab legs, and corn in the cob, and you have chicken wings, which is legit, and then you follow that up with spaghetti and cotton candy.

Neil (01:09:11.811)
I'm going pasta. I'm going pasta and yes and cotton cane. But yes. Corn on the cob, my god, like that's not even a that's not even a doesn't belong in this category.

Nick (01:09:14.176)
Well fine, you can go whatever you want for that 'cause it's d doesn't belong on this list.

Nick (01:09:24.822)
Some honorable mention thanks.

Ice cream cone, maybe?

Neil (01:09:29.369)
Ice cream cone. if you're an adult, you don't you know you shouldn't be making a mess with ice cream cone.

Nick (01:09:33.846)
That's why I didn't put it. That's why I didn't select it. I didn't that's why I didn't select it, because I am an adult. sloppy joke.

Neil (01:09:40.003)
I challenge you. I'm gonna c a I'm gonna get you a bag of cotton candy. I want you to eat it on air and tell me that it's not messy.

Nick (01:09:45.93)
I i I will not have it all over my face. I guarantee that.

Neil (01:09:48.527)
Yes you will. I guarantee you will.

Nick (01:09:52.381)
sloppy Joes I think could be another thing that could be on this list that's 'cause falling off the sandwich, getting it getting all over like the the messiness is the hands and the sides of your mouth. Like that's what we're looking for here.

Neil (01:10:07.099)
You got you gotta think about the consequence of the mess.

Nick (01:10:11.052)
I that is the consequence, is it not? Like I'm thinking about things that I'm not gonna eat on a date. And

Neil (01:10:14.393)
Okay.

Nick (01:10:21.846)
But i and I would eat ice cream on a day, 'cause I think I can handle that. I would eat if if if she wanted to get cotton candy at a ballgame, I think I could eat that without looking like an idiot. But ribs, ribs and crab legs and cornocob, no, I'm not doing that.

Neil (01:10:25.007)
Why would you not eat crab why would you not eat crab legs on a date?

Nick (01:10:41.46)
No. You got you you got it your performances gotta be better in these drafts.

Neil (01:10:45.453)
I I I've won the last draft, first of all. I've already won the first I've won the first draft. And I just crushed you in this draft. Like corn on the cop you get disqualified for saying corn on the cop.

Nick (01:10:52.35)
You did not crush me.

I get disqualified for saying Court of the Cop, but you don't get disqualified for saying Fedicine Alfredo. What?

Neil (01:11:00.805)
Cotton candy. Yeah, 'cause then when that slops on your shirt and you look like an idiot in front of your friends or your coworkers or your date, then they'd be like, dude.

Nick (01:11:12.182)
Like first date, first date, would you eat fettuccine alfredo or spaghetti? Like if you go to an Italian place. Yeah. Are you going are you gonna eat ribs on a first date? You are. I mean, I'm just I'm not going to. I just no. But I would a hundred percent eat pasta. And I think pasta is a very f I think it's a very common first date food.

Neil (01:11:17.647)
Sure.

Yeah. But you're running a ri but you're gonna you Sure. Why not?

Nick (01:11:43.692)
I don't know, I think this wraps up season one.

What you have some of your favorite segments from from what what are some of the segments that stand out to you after season one?

Neil (01:11:57.04)
When you cussed me out about Dairy Queen cheeseburgers and you went and almost choked on a bread tie.

Nick (01:12:01.645)
Well, I was cussing you out for two things. First off, your love of the cotton candy blizzard was brings us back to why that was in your selections. And then you're like, double cheeseburger, there's the best, and I go get it. And I'm like, this this burger's okay. And then three by ten, I'll get a freaking bread tie, plastic bread tie. the the Bengals rant when we were in the snow and they didn't even cover, they didn't even try to clean the seats off at all.

Neil (01:12:10.021)
Fantastic.

Nick (01:12:32.48)
That w that was fun to rant about. It was fun to have an avenue to get some of that anger out because I was angry. And I don't get angry easily. But it was three degrees. And that day was miserable. The game was miserable. So having an avenue to really just kind of unleash some of that. I en I I enjoyed it.

Neil (01:12:37.093)
Yeah.

Neil (01:12:51.759)
Yeah, I always I always enjoy getting to crush the Bengals after you know, and when we lost the Jets and put up forty points and we yelled at Duke Tobin for a solid thirty minutes on this show.

Nick (01:13:06.432)
Yeah, I mean I you still talk about this all the time. I I my buttered noodle selection on Thanksgiving dinner is

Neil (01:13:17.627)
It's most un unbelievable thing I've ever think I've ever heard.

Nick (01:13:21.622)
I mean, it's not as unbelievable as picking spaghetti in a messy food draft, but I I'll be honest, I thought it was a normal thing. Like you know what you know. Like I've gone to the same Thanksgiving dinner my entire life, we've always had it. I just thought that was normal. So I learned a little bit about myself during that.

Nick (01:13:42.924)
the cr the the Christmas movie was was draft was fun when you pretend that Just Friends is a Christmas movie?

Which is is is is not.

Neil (01:13:55.332)
It thousand percent is a Christmas. They sing Christmas carols to the kids at the church. She runs over all the Christmas decorations in the front yard.

Nick (01:14:07.52)
Yeah, th there's movies that have Christmas in them. did you think we get to episode fifty four?

Neil (01:14:16.741)
Sure. We don't quit.

Nick (01:14:19.552)
We're not quitters. I will say that. There we are a lot of things. We are not quitters. But because it is already eleven thirty five and I have to be at a meeting at eight thirty in the morning, I think we are going to quit the Well, you get to go to bed right away while I will be on my computer for the next two hours. Well But d you said you do that in the morning.

Neil (01:14:35.237)
Well, I gotta be at the I gotta be at the airport at five thirty in the morning, so

Neil (01:14:44.185)
I haven't even packed.

Nick (01:14:50.08)
So you're good.

Neil (01:14:52.431)
I probably will wait till the morning.

Nick (01:14:53.674)
Yeah, you did last the last time we talked about traveling, I talked about I hadn't packed at night and you was I don't do that until the morning. I was like, I feel like I'm a crazy person because I don't tra like pack to travel at night, and you're doing it even at another level as wait until the morning.

Neil (01:15:08.303)
Yeah, problem is it might wake the wife up and she's gonna not be happy about that, but you know. Yeah.

Nick (01:15:12.854)
So Vegas for a couple days. Don't get too crazy down there.

Neil (01:15:19.067)
I mean when it comes to FIVO fest there's no there's no promises.

Nick (01:15:22.538)
But I do hope you get to hang out with T. Higgins again.

Neil (01:15:26.095)
got training camp unfortunately.

Nick (01:15:29.472)
That's not unfortunate. We gotta get ready. But this will conclude season two. Or season one. This will conclude. You'd think I'd get better at this now that we're on to episode 54 where I can actually talk. But this will conclude season one. We're gonna take a couple weeks off. I we talked about some of our f our favorite segments from season one. I'm I'm gonna put together a little greatest little hits thing to put out on social over the next couple of weeks. But to everybody that's listened even a little bit.

During season one, we appreciate it. And let's try to grow this thing even bigger in season two. But we'll come back to season two. College football NFL will be right around the corner. And no, it's been it's been fun. It's been fun. But I'm I'm ready to to edit this thing so I can go to bed at a decent hour.

Neil (01:16:12.985)
Yep. I'm enjoying.

Neil (01:16:17.923)
All right. Let you go.

Nick (01:16:19.122)
Alright. For the six six nil, I am the four ten Nick. We appreciate everybody listening to season one. We'll see ya here in a couple weeks for the start of season two. We will talk to you then. Yup!